From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 29 May 2002 17:00:28 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 29 May 2002 17:00:27 -0400 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:3344 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 29 May 2002 17:00:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3CF540F8.6000802@mandrakesoft.com> Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:58:32 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0rc2) Gecko/00200205 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul P Komkoff Jr CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: 2.5.19 - What's up with the kernel build? In-Reply-To: <20020529205005.GN422@stingr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Paul P Komkoff Jr wrote: >Replying to Kai Germaschewski: > > >>There is still quite a bit left to do (in particular improving >>dependency generation and modversions handling), but I think it makes >>sense to explain what happened so far. >> >>There's also some points (marked with >>>) where I'd like to get >>feedback on how things should be handled in the future. >> >> > >May I ask you just one questin? >Have you read (yet) kbuild25 ? > >Ahh, no, another one. >Is this a "signs" of kbuild25 being thrown away like cml2 ? >If yes, then I am very unhappy person now (c) ac > >Played with kbuild25 today I migrated 2.4.19-pre8-ac5-s2 to it. Now make -f >Makefile-2.5 is a preferred way to make here. New system is much cleaner, >and don't need that mess of makedep and listmultis. But hey, people you >should already know that whilst you trying to install a couple of new nails >to rotten construct to help it stay for another couple of time intervals ... > > Well, I really like Keith's kbuild25 too, but Linus said (at least once) he wanted an evolution to a new build system... not an unreasonable request to at least consider. Despite Keith's quality of code (again -- I like kbuild25), his 3 patch submissions seemed a lot like ultimatums, very "take it or leave it dammit". Not the best way to win friends and influence people. If Keith is indeed leaving it, I'm hoping someone will maintain it, or work with Kai to integrate it into 2.5.x. Jeff