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From: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>
To: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Anthony Spinillo <tspinillo@linuxmail.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: INTEL 845G Chipset IDE Quandry
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 08:01:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CF9B4CC.7020205@evision-ventures.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.30.0206020318090.29792-100000@mion.elka.pw.edu.pl>

Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
>>Alan,
>>
>>This is one of the versions of INTEL which has extra bandwidth if you
>>want
>>wanted to the async IO.  Meaning the device could be set faster than the
>>host when reading from the host.  However when writing to the host the
>>device "must" be set to match.  The buffer is not capable of safely
>>handling the extra push.
>>
>>So in 2.4 we will properly time the host, unlike 2.5 which has elected
>>to overdrive the hardware.
> 
> 
> Only in piix driver (Intel & Efar) and user have to explicitly compile
> support for it, it have nothing to do with kernel version and everything
> with driver version.
> 
> 
>>The effect is the following.  "LINUS are you listening?"
> 
> 				 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Andre, you forgot to cc Linus ;)
> 
> 
>>Ultra DMA 100 uses 4 data clocks to transfer "X" amount of data.
>>Ultra DMA 133 uses 3 data clocks to transfer "X" amount of data.
>>
>>So if a bad host trys to push the limits, it ends up missing a data
>>strobe and the DATA goes away quietly without warning.  NICE!
>>
>>Maybe now people will understand why 2.5 is falling apart and it is not
>>Martin's fault.  He is just getting bad information and bad patches.
> 
> 
> Poor Marcin, he is so misinformed by bad people trying to spoil ATA stuff.
> 
> Bad patches? Who is the bad guy making the bad patches?
> Let me guess, it is Vojtech removing others people copyrighted "sick
> timing tables". Or maybe it is Jens doing at least TCQ?
> Or maybe it is me... etc.
> 
> 
>>He actual has nearly the same model I was working on to use fucntion
> 
> 
> It is really funny... but some people read code and know facts...
> 
> 
>>pointers in the style of "MiniPort (tm)".  I will explain why this is
>>desired later.
> 
> 
> in Q4 I guess

Of year 2010 - remember learning proper C will take him time.
Becouse I never ever saw any code contributed by him
despite the fact that I'm still open for patches, as
I have told him upon request.
Once exception was a broken patch which even didn't
compile and couldn't solve the problem it was
proclaiming to solve.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-06-02  7:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-02  1:58 INTEL 845G Chipset IDE Quandry Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-06-02  5:30 ` FUD or FACTS ?? but a new FLAME! Andre Hedrick
2002-06-02 12:11   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-06-02 14:29     ` Alan Cox
2002-06-02 14:25       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-06-02 16:00         ` Alan Cox
2002-06-02 21:14     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-06-02 21:50       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-06-02 21:55         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-06-03  5:36           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-03  9:19             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-06-03 13:01             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-06-03 12:10               ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-02  6:01 ` Martin Dalecki [this message]
2002-06-03  8:59   ` INTEL 845G Chipset IDE Quandry Andre Hedrick
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-03 23:35 Anthony Spinillo
2002-06-03  1:04 Anthony Spinillo
2002-06-03  9:22 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-06-02 10:16 Anthony Spinillo
2002-06-02 19:36 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-02 21:30   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-06-03  1:13     ` Alan Cox
2002-06-03  8:43       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-06-03 11:49       ` Kjartan Maraas
2002-06-03 10:10         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-06-03  4:46     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-03  8:47       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-06-03  8:04         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-03  9:37           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-06-03  9:28             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-01 21:43 Anthony Spinillo
2002-06-01 11:03 Anthony Spinillo
2002-06-01 12:40 ` Alan Cox
2002-06-01 20:13   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-06-01 19:53 ` Andre Hedrick

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