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From: kwijibo@zianet.com
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Steven Timm <timm@fnal.gov>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Serverworks OSB4 in impossible state.
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 12:11:29 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CFBB151.4070809@zianet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0206031234370.12103-100000@boxer.fnal.gov> <1023150548.23874.99.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>

I had this same problem and I posted to the list a couple
of weeks ago but it never got any response.  The only
thing I have on the IDE is a CDROM, rest is SCSI.  I could
mount the CD drive with no problem but once I tried to read
any data from it I would get the 'impossible state' error.  I can
reproduce this at any time, I don't know how the Serverworks
people can't.  Just have them go buy a Dell PowerEdge 1650
and use the CDROM.  This was with 2.4.18.  I found a work
around for it however.  I just turned off DMA and it worked fine
again.  I guess it is turned on by default.  DMA turned off on a
hard drive could suck though, not sure what you could do.

Steven

Alan Cox wrote:

>On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 18:40, Steven Timm wrote:
>  
>
>>Serverworks OSB4 in impossible state.
>>Disable UDMA or if you are using Seagate then try switching disk types
>>on this controller. Please report this event to osb4-bug@ide.cabal.tm
>>OSB4: continuing might cause disk corruption.
>>
>>This is the only one of 60 machines thus configured that has
>>had the error thus far.
>>
>>Two points:
>>1) The E-mail address in that kernel debug message doesn't exist.
>>E-mail bounces back from it.
>>    
>>
>
>Oops I'll go fix that small detail. It should have been forwarded to me.
>
>  
>
>>2) What is causing the hang and are there any hopes to
>>fix it in software this time?  Last year when I came to the kernel
>>list with problems very similar, the consensus was that this
>>is actually broken hardware in the OSB4 chipset...but obviously
>>it is possible for at least some kernels to run quasi-normally
>>on this hardware... what changed between 2.4.9 and 2.4.18 so
>>it doesn't anymore?
>>    
>>
>
>The code traps out when it sees the I/O complete and it turns out that
>the DMA engine flags say the engine is still running. In this state we
>kill the box because we know the next I/O will be written 4 bytes skewed
>with the last 4 bytes of the previous I/O apparently repeated at the
>start.
>
>I took it up with the Serverworks guys at the time, but they were not
>able to duplicate the problem and provide advice. Since we could verify
>this across an entire rendering farm it was clearly not a weird one off
>bug. It also doesn't appear to be a Linux bug (but maybe one day I'll be
>proved wrong).
>
>If you drop the drives to MWDMA2 you'll see only slightly lower
>performance and solid behaviour
>
>Alan
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-04  0:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-03 17:40 Serverworks OSB4 in impossible state Steven Timm
2002-06-04  0:29 ` Alan Cox
2002-06-03 18:11   ` kwijibo [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-10 15:52 Martin Wilck
2002-06-10 16:41 ` Daniela Engert
2002-06-11  7:22   ` Martin Wilck
2002-06-11  7:45     ` Daniela Engert
2002-06-11  8:37       ` Martin Wilck
2002-06-11 11:25       ` Martin Wilck
2002-06-11 21:27         ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-06-12  7:24           ` Martin Wilck
2002-06-13 11:50         ` Daniela Engert
2002-06-13 11:59           ` Martin Wilck
2002-06-13 12:04             ` Daniela Engert
2002-06-13 18:27               ` rico-linux-kernel
2002-06-12  8:58 ` Alan Cox
2002-06-12  8:47   ` Martin Wilck
2002-06-12  9:14     ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <20020613112932.C2B8C10A1B@mail.medav.de>
2002-06-13 12:52 ` Martin Wilck
     [not found] <1030002761.32380.27.camel@pluto.unixpac.com.au>
2002-08-22  8:35 ` ServerWorks " Martin Wilck
2002-08-22  8:51   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-22 12:02     ` Martin Wilck
2002-08-22 16:45       ` Tomas Szepe
2002-08-22 17:48         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-22 17:59         ` Alan Cox
2002-08-22 18:14           ` Tomas Szepe
2002-08-22 17:58       ` Alan Cox
2002-08-22 18:58         ` Martin Wilck

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