From: "Peter Wächtler" <pwaechtler@loewe-komp.de>
To: Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Cc: Oliver Xymoron <oxymoron@waste.org>,
Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Adeos nanokernel for Linux kernel
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 10:34:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CFF1EA3.80300@loewe-komp.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E17FfU7-0001dP-00@starship> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206051330060.2614-100000@waste.org> <20020605164837.A25348@mark.mielke.cc>
Mark Mielke wrote:
> I like the idea of Adeos, and nanokernels. I like the idea of RT, and
> I like the fact that the Open Source community is interested in all of
> these topics. It means that solutions such as VxWorks now have real
> competition, and they will be forced to make their large price tag
> purchase real value for customers, or customers will shop elsewhere.
>
I'm also not against such approaches.
As I worked for QNX I liked to provoke my Canadian coworkers
with arguments like: RTLinux is able to swap - not bad for a hack ;-)
http://groups.google.de/groups?selm=378b7d25%240%24199%40nntp1.ba.best.com&output=gplain
> Just... an .mp3 player for a desktop environment? This is a
> joke. Maybe the RTOS can perform my compiles too? That way will be
> able to accurately predict how long it will take to compile
> linux-2.4.18 each and every time.
When talking about hard realtime it's all about worst case
considerations. Average does not count (then you are talking about
*soft realtime* -> like multimedia apps, where only the quality counts).
So you could only tell how long your compile lasts at *maximum*
As I said before: the OS is only the foundation for realtime *systems*
>
> Summary: Linux + RTOS should never become VxWorks.
>
Yes, given that vxworks is more like a realtime executive
(but this seems to change: only true when running without VxVMI? )
http://www.windriver.com/products/html/vxwks5x_ds.html
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-06 8:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-03 8:35 [ANNOUNCE] Adeos nanokernel for Linux kernel Karim Yaghmour
2002-06-03 8:46 ` Erik Andersen
2002-06-03 8:56 ` Alessandro Rubini
2002-06-03 9:14 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-06-03 9:52 ` Erik Andersen
2002-06-03 10:05 ` Alessandro Rubini
2002-06-03 10:12 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-06-03 10:33 ` Erik Andersen
2002-06-03 10:38 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-06-03 11:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-03 9:26 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-04 19:29 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-05 2:20 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 2:40 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-05 2:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 13:51 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-05 14:25 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 15:37 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-05 17:32 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 18:06 ` Mark Mielke
2002-06-05 18:26 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 19:13 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-05 19:40 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 20:51 ` Mark Mielke
2002-06-05 21:45 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 21:22 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-05 21:55 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-06 8:52 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-06 10:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-06 14:03 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-06 16:53 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 20:48 ` Mark Mielke
2002-06-06 8:34 ` Peter Wächtler [this message]
2002-06-08 13:50 ` john slee
2002-06-08 13:59 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-06 21:21 ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-07 1:35 ` Mark Mielke
2002-06-07 2:42 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-07 2:48 ` Mark Mielke
2002-06-07 10:32 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-07 21:35 ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-05 9:41 ` Ingo Oeser
2002-06-05 18:20 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-06-05 3:56 ` J Sloan
2002-06-05 4:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 7:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-05 11:15 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-05 12:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 11:11 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-05 16:55 ` Rob Landley
2002-06-04 16:10 ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-04 19:59 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-06-04 21:53 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-06-04 23:06 ` Alan Cox
2002-06-05 4:00 ` Daniel Phillips
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-05 9:24 Martin.Knoblauch
2002-06-05 19:01 Paul Zimmerman
2002-06-05 19:11 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-06-05 20:17 ` Daniel Phillips
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