From: "Peter Wächtler" <pwaechtler@loewe-komp.de>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, frankeh@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Futex Asynchronous Interface
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:37:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D0867EA.8090809@loewe-komp.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E17IKo3-000341-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au>
Rusty Russell wrote:
> In message <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206120946100.22189-100000@home.transmeta.com> you wr
> ite:
>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Peter W=E4chtler wrote:
>>
>>>For the uncontended case: their is no blocked process...
>>>
>>Wrong.
>>
>>The process that holds the lock can die _before_ it gets contended.
>>
>>When another thread comes in, it now is contended, but the kernel doesn't
>>know about anything.
>>
>
> Note also: this is a feature.
>
> I have a little helper program which can grab or release a futex in a
> (mmapped) file. It's great for shell scripts to grab locks. In this
> case the helper exits with the lock held, and a later invocation
> releases a lock it never held.
>
> *AND* the lock is persistent across reboots, since it's in a file.
> How cool is that!
>
Don't want to bugg you: but you would have to clean them up in any case
when you restart your system of cooperating programs.
Posix shmem would be a nice place to store your mmaped file so that it's
gone after reboot - but gives "kernel life time".
And not that I want to put the futexes down: but now I understand why
the PROCESS_SHARED locks on Irix live in the kernel. Yes, perhaps we
should provide both and the app can choose what suits best.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-13 9:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-06 7:26 [PATCH] Futex Asynchronous Interface Rusty Russell
2002-06-02 0:10 ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-10 6:57 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-06 16:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-06 19:27 ` Alan Cox
2002-06-06 23:21 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-07 8:33 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-08 22:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-09 9:49 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-09 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-09 19:06 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-10 6:39 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-10 7:55 ` Helge Hafting
2002-06-10 14:10 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-10 20:46 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-11 14:14 ` john slee
2002-06-10 15:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-11 15:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-10 20:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-06-09 10:07 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-09 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-07 9:06 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-08 22:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-11 9:15 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-11 16:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-12 5:32 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-12 9:16 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-12 14:19 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-06-12 16:50 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-12 18:15 ` Vladimir Zidar
2002-06-12 15:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-12 16:29 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-12 16:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-12 17:07 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-12 18:32 ` Saurabh Desai
2002-06-12 20:05 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-12 20:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-13 2:57 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-13 9:37 ` Peter Wächtler [this message]
2002-06-13 9:55 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-13 16:38 ` Gabriel Paubert
2002-06-13 16:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-13 1:32 ` Rusty Russell
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-06 16:08 Martin Wirth
2002-06-06 22:59 ` Rusty Russell
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