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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk <roy@karlsbakk.net>
Cc: "Martin J. Bligh" <Martin.Bligh@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] 2.4 VM sucks. Again
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:42:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D0F8D40.2FC13433@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200206181326.27860.roy@karlsbakk.net

Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
> 
> > > > Any plans to merge this into the main kernel, giving a choice
> > > > (in config or /proc) to enable this?
> > >
> > > I don't think Andrew is ready to submit this yet ... before anything
> > > gets merged back, it'd be very worthwhile testing the relative
> > > performance of both solutions ... the more testers we have the
> > > better ;-)
> >
> > Cripes no.  It's pretty experimental.  Andrea spotted a bug, too.  Fixed
> > version is below.
> 
> Any more plans?
> The patch has been working great for some time now, and I'd really like to see
> this in the official tree

Roy, all we know is that "nuke-buffers stops your machine from locking up".
But we don't know why your machine locks up in the first place.  This just
isn't sufficient grounds to apply it!  We need to know exactly why your
kernel is failing.  We don't know what the bug is.

You have two gigabytes of RAM, yes?  It's very weird that stripping buffers
prevents a lockup on a machine with such a small highmem/lowmem ratio.

I'll have yet another shot at reproducing it.  So, again, could you please
tell me *exactly*, in great deatail, what I need to do to reproduce this
problem?

- memory size
- number of CPUs
- IO system
- kernel version, any applied patches, compiler version
- exact sequence of commands
- anything else you can think of

Have you been able to reproduce the failure on any other machine?

> Also - I guess this patch will eliminate any
> caching whatsoever, and therefore not really a good thing for file or web
> servers?

No, not at all.  All the pagecache is still there - the patch just
throws away the buffer_heads which are attached to those pagecache
pages.

The 2.5 kernel does it tons better.  Have you tried it?

-

  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-18 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-23 13:11 [BUG] 2.4 VM sucks. Again Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-05-23 14:54 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-23 16:29   ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-05-23 16:46     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-24 10:04       ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-05-24 14:35         ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-24 19:32           ` Andrew Morton
2002-05-30 10:29             ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-05-30 19:28               ` Andrew Morton
2002-05-31 16:56                 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-05-31 18:19                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-06-18 11:26             ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-18 19:42               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-06-19 11:26                 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-07-10  7:50             ` [2.4 BUFFERING BUG] (was [BUG] 2.4 VM sucks. Again) Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-07-10  8:05               ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10  8:14                 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-08-28  9:28             ` [BUG+FIX] 2.4 buggercache sucks Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-08-28 15:30               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-29  8:00                 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-08-29 13:42                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-30  9:21                     ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-08-30 17:19                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-30 18:49                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-05-24 15:11     ` [BUG] 2.4 VM sucks. Again Alan Cox
2002-05-24 15:53       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-24 16:14         ` Alan Cox
2002-05-24 16:31           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-24 17:30             ` Austin Gonyou
2002-05-24 17:43               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-24 18:03                 ` Austin Gonyou
2002-05-24 18:10                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-24 18:29                     ` 2.4 Kernel Perf discussion [Was Re: [BUG] 2.4 VM sucks. Again] Austin Gonyou
2002-05-24 19:01                       ` Stephen Frost
2002-05-27  9:24               ` [BUG] 2.4 VM sucks. Again Marco Colombo
2002-05-27 22:24                 ` Austin Gonyou
2002-05-27 23:08                   ` Austin Gonyou
2002-05-27 11:12       ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-05-27 14:31         ` Alan Cox
2002-05-27 13:43           ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-05-23 16:03 ` Johannes Erdfelt
2002-05-23 16:33   ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-05-23 22:50     ` Luigi Genoni
2002-05-24 11:53       ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-05-23 18:12 ` jlnance
2002-05-24 10:36   ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-05-31 21:21     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-06-01 12:36       ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk

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