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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Duc Vianney <dvianney@us.ibm.com>
Cc: mgross <mgross@unix-os.sc.intel.com>,
	"Griffiths, Richard A" <richard.a.griffiths@intel.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Lse-tech] Re: ext3 performance bottleneck as the number of spindles  gets large
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:11:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D13B2B4.CC2A83B8@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3D13A2B4.236E55DD@us.ibm.com

Duc Vianney wrote:
> 
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> >If you have time, please test ext2 and/or reiserfs and/or ext3
> >in writeback mode.
> I ran IOzone on ext2fs, ext3fs, JFS, and Reiserfs on an SMP 4-way
> 500MHz, 2.5GB RAM, two 9.1GB SCSI drives. The test partition is 1GB,
> test file size is 128MB, test block size is 4KB, and IO threads varies
> from 1 to 6. When comparing with other file system for this test
> environment, the results on a 2.5.19 SMP kernel show ext3fs is having
> performance problem with Writes and in particularly, with Random Write.
> I think the BKL contention patch would help ext3fs, but I need to verify
> it first.
> 
> The following data are throughput in MB/sec obtained from IOzone
> benchmark running on all file systems installed with default options.
> 
> Kernels           2519smp4   2519smp4   2519smp4   2519smp4
> No of threads=1   ext2-1t    jfs-1t     ext3-1t    reiserfs-1t
> 
> Initial write     138010     111023      29808      48170
> Rewrite           205736     204538     119543     142765
> Read              236500     237235     231860     236959
> Re-read           242927     243577     240284     242776
> Random read       204292     206010     201664     207219
> Random write      180144     180461       1090     121676

ext3 only allows dirty data to remain in memory for five seconds,
whereas the other filesystems allow it for thirty.  This is
a reasonable thing to do, but it hurts badly in benchmarks.

If you run a benchmark which takes ext2 ten seconds to
complete, ext2 will do it all in-RAM.  But after five
seconds, ext3 will go to disk and the test takes vastly longer.
I suspect that is what is happening here - we're seeing the
difference between disk bandwidth and memory bandwidth.

If you choose a larger file, a shorter file or a longer-running
test then the difference will not be so gross.

You can confirm this by trying a one-gigabyte file instead.

The "Initial write" is fishy.  I wonder if the same thing
is happening here - there may have been lots of dirty memory
left in-core (and unaccounted for) after the test completed.
iozone has a `-e' option which causes it to include the fsync()
time in the timing  calculations.   Using that would give a
better comparison, unless you are specifically trying to test
in-memory performance.  And we're not doing that here.

-

  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-21 23:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-21 22:03 [Lse-tech] Re: ext3 performance bottleneck as the number of spindles gets large Duc Vianney
2002-06-21 23:11 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-06-22  0:19 ` kwijibo
2002-06-22  8:10   ` kwijibo
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-23  4:33 Andreas Dilger
2002-06-23  6:00 ` Christopher E. Brown
2002-06-23  6:35   ` [Lse-tech] " William Lee Irwin III
2002-06-23  7:29     ` Dave Hansen
2002-06-23  7:36       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-06-23  7:45         ` Dave Hansen
2002-06-23  7:55           ` Christopher E. Brown
2002-06-23  8:11             ` David Lang
2002-06-23  8:31             ` Dave Hansen
2002-06-23 16:21           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-06-23 17:06     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-20 16:24 [Lse-tech] Re: ext3 performance bottleneck as the number of s pindles " Gross, Mark
2002-06-20 21:11 ` [Lse-tech] Re: ext3 performance bottleneck as the number of spindles " Andrew Morton
     [not found] <59885C5E3098D511AD690002A5072D3C057B499E@orsmsx111.jf.intel.com>
2002-06-20 16:10 ` Dave Hansen
2002-06-20 20:47   ` John Hawkes
2002-06-19 21:29 mgross
2002-06-20  0:54 ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-20  4:09   ` [Lse-tech] " Dave Hansen
2002-06-20  6:03     ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-20  6:53       ` Andrew Morton

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