From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>
Cc: Nick Bellinger <nickb@attheoffice.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: driverfs bus_id, name (was: [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:47:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D18AC9B.8050306@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.33.0206250920150.8496-100000@geena.pdx.osdl.net
> The bus_id of the device is intended to represent the bus-specific ID of
> the device, and is the name of the driverfs directory.
Right, I was just commenting that the SCSI folk seem to like a particular
historical usage (based on driver enumeration order) that'd seem good to
do away with ... since it's not necessary (given the _real_ bus-specific
ID from their parent device) and has _always_ been problematic (those
enumeration-related IDs can change unexpectedly).
> The name should user-friendly. It shouldn't be a unique name. Use
> something nice and pretty.
I've been wondering about that. Right now PCI and USB both use fairly
unfriendly/unpretty values in device.name ... "{PCI,USB} device VVVV:PPPP".
Let me make sure I understand you right here, by examples of two
changes I'd like to see. Correct me if these seem wrong:
- It'd be more appropriate for PCI devices to copy pci_device.name into
device.name and get the user-friendly names from the PCI device name
database (when available), and only fallback to those nasty strings
when the more user-friendly names aren't available.
- Likewise it'd be more appropriate for USB devices to take the
descriptive strings from the devices, like "Philips USB Digital
Speaker System", than "USB device 0471:0104".
In both cases the current strings might make reasonable fallbacks
for the case when something better isn't available. But as examples,
I don't think they match a "user friendly, pretty" model ... :)
Would it be appropriate for device drivers to set the "name" in
some cases, or is that something you'd only expect bus drivers
to be setting up (once, and read-only)?
Given that in one common usage the "bus_id" is the "true name" of
those devices, I've thought that "description" might be a slightly
better way identify that attribute. "Name" is a word with a thousand
meanings, all of them context-dependent, and easily confused.
- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-25 17:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-22 17:24 [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map David Brownell
2002-06-22 17:48 ` Roman Zippel
2002-06-22 20:11 ` Douglas Gilbert
2002-06-22 20:57 ` Roman Zippel
2002-06-22 18:18 ` Nick Bellinger
2002-06-24 1:50 ` David Brownell
2002-06-25 16:46 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 16:33 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 17:47 ` David Brownell [this message]
2002-06-25 19:06 ` driverfs bus_id, name (was: [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map) Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 19:55 ` David Brownell
2002-07-01 17:25 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 17:49 ` [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map David Brownell
2002-06-26 23:39 ` Nick Bellinger
2002-07-01 17:45 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-07-03 0:59 ` Pavel Machek
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