From: george anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Stevie O <oliver@klozoff.com>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: HZ, preferably as small as possible
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:09:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D2E2C48.DCB509D7@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5.1.0.14.2.20020711201602.022387b0@whisper.qrpff.net
Stevie O wrote:
>
> At <time> <date>, <user> [<email>] wrote:
> > <stuff>
>
> A lot of people are talking about how HZ needs to be a constant, etc.
>
> I don't do much kernel hacking, so allow me to post a query that would (probably) better belong on #kernelnewbies if I wasn't so damn lazy ;) --
>
> Why must HZ be the same as 'interrupts per second'?
Well, in truth it has nothing to do with interrupts. It is
just that that is the way most systems keep time. The REAL
definition of HZ is in its relationship to jiffies and
seconds.
I.e. jiffies * HZ = seconds, by definition.
Then we define interfaces that promise to return so many
jiffies from now and we keep execution time and time slice
times in jiffies. In order to keep these things true, it is
usual to set up some sort of timer to interrupt once each
jiffie. Now we can actually do this two ways. We can say
that the interrupt is a reminder to look at a "reliable
clock" and update the system time with what we find OR we
can use the interrupt to actually drive the system time.
The former is the more accurate way of doing things as it
eliminates interrupt latency. It also allows us to use a
more sloppy source of interrupts since they are just
reminders to check a clock and not actually driving the
clock. This, by the way, is what the high-res-timers patch
does. Doing things this way also allows one to reprogram
the timer interrupt hardware with out worrying too much
about loosing track of time. The HRT patch does this to
generate interrupts at sub jiffie intervals, but only when
required.
-g
>
> --
> Stevie-O
>
> Real programmers link their executables by hand.
>
--
George Anzinger george@mvista.com
High-res-timers:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
Real time sched: http://sourceforge.net/projects/rtsched/
Preemption patch:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-12 1:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-10 19:59 HZ, preferably as small as possible Grover, Andrew
2002-07-10 21:09 ` george anzinger
2002-07-11 6:03 ` Hannu Savolainen
2002-07-11 7:15 ` george anzinger
2002-07-12 0:36 ` Stevie O
2002-07-12 0:50 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-12 0:55 ` Robert Love
2002-07-12 0:58 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-12 1:24 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-12 1:37 ` Mark Hahn
2002-07-12 1:09 ` george anzinger [this message]
2002-07-12 1:26 ` Roland Dreier
2002-07-12 17:30 ` george anzinger
2002-07-12 1:35 ` Stevie O
2002-07-12 3:01 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-07-11 12:54 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-11 15:59 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-10 21:28 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 21:35 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-10 21:38 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 21:42 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-11 2:14 ` CaT
2002-07-11 17:01 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-10 22:01 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-10 22:09 ` Cort Dougan
2002-07-11 13:36 ` Whoa... (was: Re: HZ, preferably as small as possible) Mark Mielke
2002-07-11 21:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-10 22:41 ` HZ, preferably as small as possible Thunder from the hill
2002-07-10 22:47 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-10 22:49 ` Eli Carter
2002-07-10 23:05 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-10 23:08 ` Dave Mielke
2002-07-10 23:13 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-10 23:50 ` J.A. Magallon
2002-07-11 0:28 ` Lincoln Dale
2002-07-11 11:35 ` Kasper Dupont
2002-07-11 12:30 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-11 13:37 ` Kasper Dupont
2002-07-11 15:46 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-11 18:51 ` george anzinger
2002-07-15 5:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-15 16:26 ` Robert Love
2002-07-15 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-15 19:52 ` mbs
2002-07-15 20:01 ` yodaiken
2002-07-16 11:41 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-07-17 19:33 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-17 20:31 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-17 20:40 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-17 21:02 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-17 21:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-17 21:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-18 12:57 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-18 13:25 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-18 10:10 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-07-17 20:55 ` Linus Torvalds
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-11 2:46 Grover, Andrew
2002-07-11 3:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-07-11 11:45 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-11 17:08 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-11 19:21 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-16 9:17 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-07-11 20:34 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-12 12:01 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-15 5:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-15 6:56 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-15 8:24 ` Russell King
2002-07-15 15:48 ` David Mosberger
2002-07-15 18:20 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-15 18:30 ` David Mosberger
2002-07-15 16:07 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-15 17:06 ` Russell King
2002-07-15 18:43 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-15 18:53 ` Russell King
2002-07-15 18:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-15 20:15 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-15 8:58 ` Dave Mielke
2002-07-11 7:09 ` george anzinger
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