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From: Matthew Dobson <colpatch@us.ibm.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Michael Hohnbaum <hohnbaum@us.ibm.com>,
	Martin Bligh <mjbligh@us.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Subject: Re: [patch[ Simple Topology API
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:48:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D330AEF.3070105@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: p73ofdbv1a4.fsf@oldwotan.suse.de

Andi Kleen wrote:
> Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au> writes:
>>AFAIK, the interested parties with this and the memory binding API are
>>ia32-NUMA, ia64, PPC, some MIPS and x86-64-soon.  It would be helpful
>>if the owners of those platforms could review this work and say "yes,
>>this is something we can use and build upon".  Have they done that?
> 
> Comment from the x86-64 side: 
> 
> Current x86-64 NUMA essentially has no 'nodes', just each CPU has
> local memory that is slightly faster than remote memory. This means
> the node number would be always identical to the CPU number. As long
> as the API provides it's ok for me. Just the node concept will not be
> very useful on that platform. memblk will also be identity mapped to
> node/cpu.
> 
> Some way to tell user space about memory affinity seems to be useful,
> but...
That shouldn't be a problem at all.  Since each architecture is responsible for 
defining the 5 main topology functions, you could do this:

#define _cpu_to_node(cpu)	(cpu)
#define _memblk_to_node(memblk)	(memblk)
#define _node_to_node(node)	(node)
#define _node_to_cpu(node)	(node)
#define _node_to_memblk(node)	(node)

> General comment:
> 
> I don't see what the application should do with the memblk concept
> currently. Just knowing about it doesn't seem too useful. 
> Surely it needs some way to allocate memory in a specific memblk to be useful?
> Also doesn't it need to know how much memory is available in each memblk?
> (otherwise I don't see how it could do any useful partitioning)
For that, you need to look at the Memory Binding API that I sent out moments 
after this patch...  It builds on top of this infrastructure to allow binding 
processes to individual memory blocks or groups of memory blocks.

Cheers!

-Matt

> 
> -Andi
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-07-15 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <3D2F75D7.3060105@us.ibm.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <3D2F9521.96D7080B@zip.com.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-07-13 20:08   ` [patch[ Simple Topology API Andi Kleen
2002-07-14 19:17     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-14 19:43       ` Andi Kleen
2002-07-15  2:34         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-07-15 15:25           ` Sandy Harris
2002-07-15 16:33             ` Chris Friesen
2002-07-16 10:30             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-07-16 12:59               ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-16 15:45               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-16 19:03       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-16 22:29       ` Matthew Dobson
2002-07-17  0:21       ` Michael Hohnbaum
2002-07-15 17:48     ` Matthew Dobson [this message]
2002-07-15 19:50 Jukka Honkela
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-13  0:35 Matthew Dobson
2002-07-13  2:49 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-15 18:49   ` Matthew Dobson
2002-07-13  8:04 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-13 17:13   ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-15 23:52   ` Matthew Dobson

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