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From: george anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 'select' failure or signal should not update timeout
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:31:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D40440D.116FF155@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20020725163239.6c6e5ed6.rusty@rustcorp.com.au

Rusty Russell wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:48:10 -0700 (PDT)
> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> wrote:
> 
> > The thing is, we cannot change existing select semantics, and the
> > question is whether what most soft-realtime wants is actually select, or
> > whether people really want a "waittimeofday()".
> 
> NOT waittimeofday.  You need a *new* measure which can't be set forwards
> or back if you want this to be sane.  pthreads has absolute timeouts (eg.
> pthread_cond_timedwait), but they suck IRL for this reason.
> 
> Of course, doesn't need any correlation with absolute time, it could be a
> "microseconds since boot" kind of thing.
> 
The POSIX clocks & timers API defines CLOCK_MONOTONIC for
this sort of thing (CLOCK_MONOTONIC can not be set).  It
also defines an API for clock_nanosleep() that CAN use an
absolute time which is supposed to follow any clock setting
that is done.  Combine the two and you have a fixed time
definition.

AND, guess what, the high-res-timers patch does all this and
more.
-- 
George Anzinger   george@mvista.com
High-res-timers: 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
Real time sched:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/rtsched/
Preemption patch:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml

  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-25 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200207171430.g6HEUvY23619@aztec.santafe.edu>
2002-07-19  9:52 ` [PATCH] 'select' failure or signal should not update timeout Paul Eggert
2002-07-20  0:38   ` Alan Cox
2002-07-20  5:57     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-21 15:36       ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-07-24 13:44         ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-24 18:48           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-24 19:07             ` Chris Friesen
2002-07-24 23:30             ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-25  6:32             ` Rusty Russell
2002-07-25 18:31               ` george anzinger [this message]
2002-07-28  5:40               ` David Schwartz
2002-07-25 16:35             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-07-25 17:15               ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-21 16:00       ` Christoph Rohland
2002-07-21 16:43         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-21 17:51           ` dean gaudet
2002-07-22  3:59           ` Edgar Toernig
2002-07-22  6:51           ` Christoph Rohland
2002-07-21 16:26       ` Ingo Molnar
2002-07-21 20:14     ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-20  3:59 dank
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-21  3:34 Peter T. Breuer
2002-07-28 10:33 linux

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