From: Marcin Dalecki <dalecki@evision.ag>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: Peter Chubb <peter@chubb.wattle.id.au>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Matt_Domsch@Dell.com, Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.5.28 and partitions
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 12:08:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D490894.9030506@evision.ag> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.GSO.4.21.0207311832270.8505-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu
Alexander Viro wrote:
>
> On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Peter Chubb wrote:
>
>
>>Maybe we need to roll our own? I suggest something like:
>> struct linux_volume_header {
>> char volname[16];
>> __u32 nparts;
>> __u32 blocksize;
>> struct linux_partition {
>> char partname[16]
>> __u64 start;
>> __u64 len;
>> __u32 usage;
>> __u32 flags;
>> } parts[]
>> }
>
>
> Oh, ferchrissake! WHY??? People, we'd seen a lot of demonstrations
> of the reasons why binary structures are *bad* for such stuff.
>
> What the bleedin' hell is wrong with <name> <start> <len>\n - all in ASCII?
> Terminated by \0. No need for flags, no need for endianness crap, no
> need to worry about field becoming too narrow...
>
> What, parsing that would be too slow? Right. Sure. How many times do
> we parse partition table? How many times do we end up reading it from
> disk? How does IO time compare to the "overhead" of trivial sscanf loop?
>
> Furrfu... "ASCII is tough, let's go shopping"...
Whats wrong with ASCII processing? Easy to tell:
1. Look at bagtraq. (www.securityfocus.com)
2. It's making data *not agnostic* against i18n issues. This is
something most people forgett about. /proc is LANG=en_US. ISO8859-1 - I
do not like this language.
3. For some as of jet undiscovered reason actual application programmers
hate processing it.
4. Answer 1. should be actually sufficient.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-08-01 10:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <15688.25919.138565.6427@wombat.chubb.wattle.id.au>
2002-07-31 22:39 ` 2.5.28 and partitions Alexander Viro
2002-08-01 10:08 ` Marcin Dalecki [this message]
2002-08-01 12:31 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-08-01 19:29 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-01 20:31 ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-01 20:45 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-01 21:08 ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-01 21:25 ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-08-01 21:41 ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-02 19:40 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-08-01 21:02 ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-08-01 21:27 ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-01 21:45 ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-08-02 5:21 ` Ryan Anderson
2002-08-01 21:24 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-02 19:47 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-08-02 20:49 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-02 21:21 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-08-02 21:36 ` [RFC] " Thunder from the hill
2002-08-02 22:12 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-02 22:53 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-08-02 14:54 Jesse Pollard
2002-08-02 18:33 ` Kai Henningsen
[not found] <15688.27022.143541.447952@wombat.chubb.wattle.id.au>
2002-07-31 23:42 ` Alexander Viro
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2002-07-31 23:38 Matt_Domsch
[not found] <F44891A593A6DE4B99FDCB7CC537BBBBB839AC@AUSXMPS308.aus.amer .dell.com>
2002-07-31 22:58 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-31 22:47 Matt_Domsch
2002-07-25 17:50 Andries.Brouwer
2002-07-25 13:24 Petr Vandrovec
2002-07-25 13:45 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-26 5:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-07-25 12:43 Petr Vandrovec
2002-07-25 3:22 Matt_Domsch
2002-07-25 5:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-25 11:44 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-25 15:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-30 9:58 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207250739390.17037-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu >
2002-07-25 13:03 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-25 16:50 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-25 17:35 ` Jason L Tibbitts III
2002-07-25 17:57 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-25 18:27 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-27 5:56 ` Austin Gonyou
[not found] ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207251245530.17621-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu >
2002-07-25 17:39 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-25 10:42 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-24 22:42 Andries.Brouwer
2002-07-24 23:42 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-25 0:20 ` kwijibo
2002-07-25 4:00 ` Jason L Tibbitts III
[not found] ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207241925450.14656-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu >
2002-07-25 2:11 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-25 5:15 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207242213540.1231-100000@home.transmeta.com >
2002-07-25 8:43 ` Anton Altaparmakov
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