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From: george anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Leah Cunningham <leahc@us.ibm.com>,
	wilhelm.nuesser@sap.com, paramjit@us.ibm.com, msw@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tsc-disable_B9
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 11:49:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D540ED3.58F200F6@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1028915214.1117.46.camel@cog

john stultz wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 02:17, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 03:30, john stultz wrote:
> > > Not sure I followed that, do you mean per-cpu TSC management for
> > > gettimeofday?
> >
> > We have some x86 setups where people plug say a 300MHhz and a 450MHz
> > celeron into the same board. This works because they are same FSB,
> > different multiplier (works and intel certify being two different
> > things)
> 
> Oh yes, with the old NUMAQ hardware here, one can mix nodes of different
> speed cpus. Once I get a chance, I'm going to begin working on this
> issue for 2.5. My plan right now is to keep per-cpu last_tsc_low and
> fast_gettimeoffset_quotient values, then round robin the timer
> interrupt.
> 
An interesting approach, however, could you take a look at
the high-res-timers patch (see signature).  In that code (in
the TSC version), we use the TSC to update jiffies and
_sub_jiffie (which is TSC counts into the next jiffie).  We
also want to be able to "grab" a new TSC and figure the time
quickly, without updating either jiffies or _sub_jiffie. 
Your approach would, I think, mean that both jiffies and
_sub_jiffie would be per cpu values, not impossible, but,
well, hard.

On the other hand, the high-res-timers patch also allows one
to use the ACPI pm timer, and ignore TSC completely :)

-g
> 
> > Needless to say tsc does not work well on such boxes. Thats why I don't
> > trust the tsc at all in such cases. Since you'll have the nice cyclone
> > timer for the Summit it seems best not to trust it, and on the summit to
> > use the cyclone for udelay as well ?
> >
> > I agree dodgy_tsc needs to change name. Perhaps we actually want
> >
> >       int tsc = select_tsc();
> >
> >       switch(tsc)
> >       {
> >               case TSC_CYCLONE:
> >               case TSC_PROCESSOR:
> >               case TSC_NONE:
> >               ..
> >       }
> 
> Sounds good. I'll re-work my patch and resubmit.
> 
> thanks!
> -john
> 
> -
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-- 
George Anzinger   george@mvista.com
High-res-timers: 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
Preemption patch:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml

  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-09 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-08  1:53 [PATCH] tsc-disable_B9 john stultz
2002-08-08  2:15 ` [PATCH] cyclone-timer_A9 john stultz
2002-08-08 13:18   ` Alan Cox
2002-08-09  2:03     ` john stultz
2002-08-08 13:17 ` [PATCH] tsc-disable_B9 Alan Cox
2002-08-09  2:30   ` john stultz
2002-08-09  9:17     ` Alan Cox
2002-08-09 17:46       ` john stultz
2002-08-09 18:49         ` george anzinger [this message]
2002-08-09 20:58           ` john stultz
2002-08-13  1:23             ` James Cleverdon
2002-08-11 20:16         ` Alan Cox
2002-08-15 16:56     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-08-16 11:15       ` Alan Cox
2002-08-16 13:19         ` Mikael Pettersson
2002-08-21 13:12           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-08-21 14:10             ` Alan Cox
2002-08-21 14:33               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-08-21 15:01                 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-21 16:13                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-08-21 16:25                     ` Alan Cox
2002-08-21 17:17                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-08-21 17:34                         ` Alan Cox
2002-08-26 16:10                     ` Pavel Machek
2002-08-26 18:45                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-26 19:00                         ` Pavel Machek
2002-08-26 19:05                         ` Alan Cox
2002-08-26 20:19                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-26 19:18                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-08-26 19:42                           ` Pavel Machek
2002-08-26 20:23                           ` Alan Cox
2002-08-26 22:49                         ` Andrea Arcangeli

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