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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>,
	"Heater, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc,
	VMIC)" <Daniel.Heater@gefanuc.com>,
	"'Padraig Brady'" <padraig.brady@corvil.com>,
	"'Linux Kernel'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: IDE-flash device and hard disk on same controller
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 21:26:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D658F2C.1080400@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m1ofbupfe1.fsf@frodo.biederman.org

Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> The problem is that immediately after bootup ATA devices do not respond until
> their media has spun up.  Which is both required by the spec, and observed in
> practice.   Which is likely a problem if this code is run a few seconds after
> bootup.  Which makes it quite possible the drive will ignore the EXECUTE DEVICE
> DIAGNOSTICS and your error code won't be valid when the bsy flag
> clears.   I don't know how serious that would be. 


Well, this only applies if you are slack and letting the kernel init 
your ATA from scratch, instead of doing proper ATA initialization in 
firmware ;-)

Seriously, if you are a handed an ATA device that is actually in 
operation when the kernel boots, you are already out of spec.  I would 
prefer to barf if the BSY or DRDY bits are set, because taking over the 
ATA bus while a device is in the middle of a command shouldn't be 
happening at Linux kernel boot, ever.

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-23  1:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-20 19:52 IDE-flash device and hard disk on same controller Heater, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc, VMIC)
2002-08-20 21:57 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-20 22:00   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-20 22:28     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-21  6:36       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-08-21  6:55         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-21  7:16           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-08-21  6:57         ` MMIO {Re: IDE-flash device and hard disk on same controller} Andre Hedrick
2002-08-21  7:10           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-22  5:34       ` IDE-flash device and hard disk on same controller Eric W. Biederman
2002-08-22 23:12         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-23  0:50           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-08-23  1:26             ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-08-23 11:03               ` Russell King
2002-08-23 11:41               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-08-23 10:12                 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-23 13:09               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-08-23  3:14             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-23 11:44               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-08-24  2:02                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-24  0:19                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-08-24  8:41                   ` Russell King
2002-08-24 20:28                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-23  3:19             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-23  7:14               ` Helge Hafting
2002-08-23  7:49                 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-23 10:50               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-08-23 11:08                 ` Russell King
2002-08-23 11:07               ` Russell King
2002-08-23 11:36           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-08-22 13:41 ` bill davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-08-23 10:48 Adam J. Richter
2002-08-23 10:14 Adam J. Richter
2002-08-23  8:31 Adam J. Richter
2002-08-23  8:59 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-23  9:54 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-08-23  6:54 Adam J. Richter
2002-08-23  7:45 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-23 11:10   ` Russell King
2002-08-23 17:08     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-23 17:42       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-21 13:22 Warner, Bill (IndSys, GEFanuc, VMIC)
2002-08-19 18:31 Heater, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc, VMIC)
2002-08-19 19:21 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-20  8:44 ` Padraig Brady

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