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From: Bill Hartner <hartner@austin.ibm.com>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Mala Anand <manand@us.ibm.com>,
	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, Bill Hartner <bhartner@us.ibm.com>,
	davem@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net,
	lse-tech-admin@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Lse-tech] Re: (RFC): SKB Initialization
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:12:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D669737.67ED34AF@austin.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3D666531.4020909@us.ibm.com



Dave Hansen wrote:
> 
> Mala Anand wrote:
> > Readprofile ticks are not as accurate as the cycles I measured.
> > Moreover readprofile can give misleading information as it profiles
> > on timer interrupts. The alloc_skb and __kfree_skb call memory
> > management routines and interrupts are disabled in many parts of that code.
> > So I don't trust the readprofile data.
> 
> I don't believe your results to be accurate.  They may be _precise_
> for a small case, but you couldn't have been measuring them for very
> long.  A claim of accuracy requires a large number of samples, which
> you apparently did not do.

Dave,

What is your definition of a "very long time" ?

Read the 1st email.  There were 2.4 million samples.

How many do you think is sufficient ?

> 
> I can't use oprofile or other NMI-based profilers on my hardware, so
> we'll just have to guess.  Is there any chance that you have access to
> a large Specweb setup on hardware that is close to mine and can run
> oprofile?

Why do you think oprofile is a better way to measure this ?
BTW, Mala works with Troy Wilson who is running SPECweb99 on
an 8-way system using Apache.  Troy has run with Mala's patch
and that data will be posted.

> 
> Where are interrupts disabled?   I just went through a set of kernprof
> data and traced up the call graph.  In the most common __kfree_skb
> case, I do not believe that it has interupts disabled.  I could be
> wrong, but I didn't see it.

What is the revelance of the above ?

> 
> http://www.sr71.net/~specweb99/old/run-specweb-2300-nodynpost-2.5.31-bk+profilers-08-14-2002-02.19.22/callgraph
> 
> The end result, as I can see it, is that your patches hurt Specweb
> performance.

Based on what ?  A callgraph ? A profile ? 

Bill

  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-23 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-23 14:44 [Lse-tech] Re: (RFC): SKB Initialization Mala Anand
2002-08-23 16:39 ` Dave Hansen
2002-08-23 20:12   ` Bill Hartner [this message]
2002-08-23 20:30     ` Dave Hansen
2002-08-23 23:36       ` Troy Wilson
2002-08-23 20:51     ` Rick Lindsley
2002-08-23 22:41   ` David S. Miller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-09-03  3:47 Mala Anand
2002-08-27 13:18 Mala Anand
2002-08-27 15:49 ` jamal
2002-08-27  2:53 Mala Anand
2002-08-26 13:04 Mala Anand
2002-08-26 19:28 ` Robert Olsson
2002-08-27 10:17 ` jamal
2002-08-25 20:12 Mala Anand
2002-08-26  1:02 ` jamal
2002-08-25 16:17 jamal
2002-08-25 22:51 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-23 23:38 Mala Anand
2002-08-23 23:55 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-23 23:14 Mala Anand
2002-08-22 17:22 Mala Anand
2002-08-22 18:32 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-22 19:02 ` Dave Hansen
2002-08-22 22:05   ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-23 19:09 ` Bill Hartner

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