From: Padraig Brady <padraig.brady@corvil.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Dominik Brodowski <devel@brodo.de>,
cpufreq@www.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][2.5.32] CPU frequency and voltage scaling (0/4)
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:02:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D6DF151.5080203@corvil.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.44.0208281649540.27728-100000@home.transmeta.com
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On 29 Aug 2002, Alan Cox wrote:
>
>>So what you are saying is that you want to be sure that something like
>>"please run at a low speed to save battery" is translated by smarter
>>cpus into "please save battery" and on spudstop the CPU would go "umm
>>duh ok 300MHz"
>
>
> Yup, exactly.
>
> I suspect that this is also what most people actually want to use anyway:
> you don't care that your CPU is a speedstep 1GHz/500Mhz or a 700/300 (or
> whatever the combinations are), you really want to just say "go to power
> save mode" vs "go to performance mode".
>
> Sure, for speedstep, you can obviously trivially _emulate_ this in user
> mode with the frequency approach, but for the generic case it isn't.
>
> I don't know how many policies would be needed (too many just adds
> complexity for no gain), but I _suspect_ that something like a
>
> { min-Hz, max-Hz, policy }
>
> triple with "policy" being just a few different values ("performance",
> "powersave") is sufficient. Clearly this triple trivially _becomes_ the
> "single MHz" by just making min and max be the same if you really want one
> particular MHz (at which time "policy" doesn't matter).
>
> With something like the above, you could do something like
>
> { 0, ~0UL, "performance" } => generic highest performance setting
> { 0, ~0UL, "power-save" } => generic power-save setting
> { 300, 500, "performance" } => give me a performance setting in the specified range
> { 1700, 1700, "performance" } => run at a fixed 1.7GHz
I would go for a quadruple:
{ 0, ~0UL, 0, "performance" } => generic highest performance setting
{ 0, ~0UL, 0, "power-save" } => generic power-save setting
{ 300, 500, 0, "performance" } => give me a performance setting in the {
1700, 1700, 70"performance" } => run at a fixed 1.7GHz
{ 0, ~0UL, 70, "performance" } => performance but don't go above 70°C
would you also want a hysteris value?
Pádraig.
> (maybe the "policy" thing actually makes a difference even for the
> fixed-frequency case: it can give hints about whether to allow C1-C3
> states when idle etc).
>
> Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-08-29 9:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-08-28 11:46 [PATCH][2.5.32] CPU frequency and voltage scaling (0/4) Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-28 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28 18:48 ` Cort Dougan
2002-08-28 19:25 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-28 19:32 ` Cort Dougan
2002-08-29 10:26 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-08-28 19:41 ` Peter Riocreux
2002-08-28 19:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-29 9:51 ` Padraig Brady
2002-08-29 10:23 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-08-28 19:21 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-28 19:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28 20:25 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-28 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28 23:26 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-28 23:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-30 0:39 ` jw schultz
2002-08-29 7:01 ` Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-28 20:39 ` Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-28 21:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-06 11:31 ` Pavel Machek
2002-08-28 20:27 ` Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-28 20:19 ` Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-28 20:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28 20:53 ` Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-28 21:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28 23:00 ` george anzinger
2002-08-28 23:30 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-29 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-29 7:07 ` Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-29 10:02 ` Padraig Brady [this message]
2002-08-29 10:53 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-29 13:38 ` Dave Jones
2002-08-29 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-29 19:24 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-29 21:22 ` george anzinger
2002-08-30 6:46 ` David Gibson
2002-08-30 7:54 ` Helge Hafting
2002-08-30 3:21 ` David Lang
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-08-28 20:25 Grover, Andrew
2002-08-28 20:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-29 15:07 Pering, Trevor
2002-08-30 8:04 ` Helge Hafting
2002-08-30 11:53 ` Dave Jones
2002-08-30 12:36 ` Helge Hafting
2002-08-30 22:43 ` george anzinger
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