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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
Cc: Christian Ehrhardt <ehrhardt@mathematik.uni-ulm.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Include LRU in page count
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 17:17:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D72AE2C.F1806BDD@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E17leDK-0004dA-00@starship

Daniel Phillips wrote:
> 
> On Monday 02 September 2002 01:08, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > > Note that I changed the spin_lock in page_cache_release to a trylock, maybe
> > > it's worth checking out the effect on contention.  With a little head
> > > scratching we might be able to get rid of the spin_lock in lru_cache_add as
> > > well.  That leaves (I think) just the two big scan loops.  I've always felt
> > > it's silly to run more than one of either at the same time anyway.
> >
> > No way.  Take a look at http://samba.org/~anton/linux/2.5.30/
> >
> > That's 8-way power4, the workload is "dd from 7 disks
> > dd if=/dev/sd* of=/dev/null bs=1024k".
> >
> > The CPU load in this situation was dominated by the VM.  The LRU list and page
> > reclaim.  Spending more CPU in lru_cache_add() than in copy_to_user() is
> > pretty gross.
> 
> Are we looking at the same thing?  The cpu load there is dominated by cpu_idle,
> 89%.

Apart from that, dummy ;)  The absolute numbers are proportional
to IO bandwidth.  And 7/8ths of a scsi disk per CPU isn't much.

>  Anyway, if your point is that it makes sense to run shrink_cache or
> refill_inactive in parallel, I don't see it because they'll serialize on the
> lru lock anyway.  What would make sense is to make shink_cache nonblocking.

Well shrink_list() runs locklessly now.  But there remains a significant
cost in shrink_cache(), a little of which will be due to the hopefully-removable
page_cache_get() inside the lock.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-02  0:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-22  2:29 MM patches against 2.5.31 Andrew Morton
2002-08-22 11:28 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-26  1:52   ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26  9:10     ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-26 14:22       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-26 15:29         ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-26 17:56           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-26 19:24             ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26 19:34               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-26 19:48               ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-27  9:22               ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-27 19:19                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26 20:00             ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-26 20:09               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-26 20:58                 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-27 16:48                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-28 13:14                     ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-28 17:18                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-28 17:42                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-28 20:41                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-28 21:03                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-28 22:04                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-28 22:39                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-28 22:57                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-26 21:31                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-27  3:42                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-27  4:37                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26 17:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-26 19:28       ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-30 23:03       ` [RFC] [PATCH] Include LRU in page count Daniel Phillips
2002-08-31 16:14         ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-31 17:54           ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-31 19:47           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-31 20:26             ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-31 21:05               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-31 22:30                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-01  3:36                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-01 21:32               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-01 22:09                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-01 22:08                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-01 22:20                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-01 23:08                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-01 23:19                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-01 23:28                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-01 23:33                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-02  0:17                         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-09-02  0:30                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-02  1:50                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-02  1:08                         ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-02 17:23             ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-09-02 18:01               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-05  4:42         ` [RFC] Alternative raceless page free Daniel Phillips
2002-09-05 12:34           ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-09-05 15:21             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-05 16:04               ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-09-05 16:10                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-05 16:31                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-05 18:06                 ` [RFC] Alternative raceless page free, updated Daniel Phillips
2002-08-22 15:59 ` MM patches against 2.5.31 Steven Cole
2002-08-22 16:06   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-22 19:45     ` Steven Cole
2002-08-26  2:15     ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26  2:08       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-26  2:32         ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26  3:06           ` Steven Cole

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