From: Ed Sweetman <ed.sweetman@WMICH.EDU>
To: Nuitari <nuitari@balthasar.nuitari.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ide drive dying?
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 15:27:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D7BA4BC.5050904@wmich.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.44.0209082126400.16694-100000@balthasar.nuitari.net
Nuitari wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 jbradford@dial.pipex.com wrote:
>
>>I have *never* lost data to a Maxtor disk. I have had IBM, Fujitsu, Western Digital, and DEC drives all fail on me before.
>>
>>It's dissapointing that Maxtor are reducing their warranty from 3 years to 1 year, but on the other hand, I've never needed it at all.
>
>
> The problem is that you will eventually lose data. No matter what the
> brand is. Some disks tend to work better for longer time. Sometimes you
> are just out of luck. With some brands, luck seems to be running out
> (Quantum). Other brands may work better, but they will eventually fail.
>
> I've had failed Seagate, Maxtor, IBM, Fujitsu, Western Digital, Quantum,
> Conner.
>
> The only brand which never failed that I use is Samsung (probably due to
> the fact that I only have 2 of them compared to the other brands).
>
> I do expect them to fail and I have backups of the most important stuff I
> need.
>
> The best I found for reliability (except for backups) is haveing a
> software raid 5 on many disks of about same capacity (but different
> brand/model).
>
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well since most hdd's have a 5-10 year lifespan when operating in <30C
you can see why many people's hdds are dying or having errors much
sooner. People are operating their hdd's in the mid 30's or higher due
to low air circulation or just generally high ambient temperatures in
the case. This cuts run to error time significantly. There was a
chart on some hdd website that showed how long you can expect to have
your data safe for different ranges of temperatures and it's something
like 30-33 = 3 year ...~35C is getting close to 1 year and it just goes
like that. So yea, it's not surprising at all that reputations that
used to work dont anymore as heat effects all and heat has become the
dominating problem in today's hdds rather than simple quality of parts.
Keep your drive cool and you can expect to keep it around for a very
long time.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-09-08 19:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-08 0:02 ide drive dying? Dieter Nützel
2002-09-08 17:42 ` jbradford
2002-09-09 1:31 ` Nuitari
2002-09-08 19:27 ` Ed Sweetman [this message]
2002-09-08 20:11 ` jbradford
2002-09-09 2:37 ` Nuitari
2002-09-09 12:26 ` Joachim Breuer
2002-09-09 18:17 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-09 18:55 ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-10 12:48 ` Ookhoi
2002-09-10 13:59 ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-10 14:56 ` jbradford
2002-09-10 15:21 ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-10 15:29 ` Larry McVoy
2002-09-10 20:21 ` Andre Hedrick
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0209062017230.14523-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-09-07 6:09 ` jbradford
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-09-06 20:40 Hell.Surfers
2002-09-06 21:01 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-07 1:02 ` Jason L Tibbitts III
2002-09-06 15:13 DevilKin
2002-09-06 15:26 ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-06 15:39 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-06 15:42 ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-06 16:14 ` Billy Harvey
2002-09-06 16:41 ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-06 18:00 ` jbradford
2002-09-06 17:58 ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-06 15:44 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-09-06 16:19 ` Craig Ruff
2002-09-06 17:28 ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-06 15:36 ` jbradford
2002-09-06 15:55 ` DevilKin
2002-09-06 17:22 ` jbradford
2002-09-06 19:22 ` DevilKin
2002-09-07 9:30 ` Anders Fugmann
2002-09-07 9:37 ` Udo A. Steinberg
2002-09-07 15:54 ` Holger Lubitz
2002-09-07 16:31 ` jbradford
2002-09-07 12:31 ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-07 13:08 ` jbradford
2002-09-07 13:50 ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-07 15:02 ` jbradford
2002-09-07 20:19 ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-07 20:41 ` jbradford
2002-09-07 21:41 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-07 21:41 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-07 22:00 ` jbradford
2002-09-07 23:19 ` David Forrest
2002-09-08 10:56 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-09-08 14:14 ` jbradford
2002-09-09 21:59 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-07 22:05 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-09-07 7:08 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-09-06 15:37 ` mbs
2002-09-06 15:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-06 15:38 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-06 17:33 ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-06 20:31 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-06 15:44 ` mbs
2002-09-06 17:46 ` mbs
2002-09-06 20:32 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-07 12:34 ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-07 7:02 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-09-07 7:42 ` jbradford
2002-09-07 7:50 ` Andre Hedrick
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