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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	cgl_discussion mailing list <cgl_discussion@osdl.org>,
	evlog mailing list <evlog-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	"ipslinux (Keith Mitchell)" <ipslinux@us.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@home.transmeta.com>,
	Hien Nguyen <hien@us.ibm.com>,
	James Keniston <kenistoj@us.ibm.com>,
	Mike Sullivan <sullivam@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: alternate event logging proposal
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:03:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D90C4FE.3070909@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3D90C3B0.8090507@nortelnetworks.com

Chris Friesen wrote:
> Also related is "how can userspace be notified of kernel events?". There 
> is no way for a userspace app to be notified that, for instance, an ATM 
> device got a loss of signal.  The drivers print it out, but the 
> userspace app has no clue.

> Maybe netlink is the way to go, but its not exactly a simple interface.


Well, the eventual intention [whenever <somebody> codes it up] for 
ethernet devices is to have netlink proactively deliver link up/down 
events, and perhaps other events.  For this specific problem, at least, 
I think netlink is the way to go.  ATM drivers, or ethernet drivers, 
simply need some helper functions they can call.  The library code for 
those helper functions is the only place where netlink complexity is 
needed...

In existing drivers that call netif_carrier_{on,off}, it is perhaps even 
possible to have them send netlink messages with no driver-specific code 
changes at all.

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-24 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-24  1:54 [PATCH-RFC} 3 of 4 - New problem logging macros, plus template generation Larry Kessler
2002-09-24  2:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-24  5:47   ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-24  6:05     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-24  7:06       ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-24  7:23         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-24  7:30           ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-24 19:48             ` alternate event logging proposal Jeff Garzik
2002-09-24 19:57               ` Chris Friesen
2002-09-24 20:03                 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-09-24 20:54                   ` Tim Hockin
2002-09-24 22:32                     ` Brad Hards
2002-09-24 23:31                       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-24 23:37                         ` Brad Hards
2002-09-24 23:59                           ` Tim Hockin
2002-09-24 23:38                         ` Tim Hockin
2002-09-25  0:09                           ` Ben Greear
2002-09-25  0:47                             ` Tim Hockin
2002-09-25  1:14                               ` Brad Hards
2002-09-25  1:38                                 ` Tim Hockin
2002-09-24 20:09                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-24 20:27                   ` [evlog-dev] " Larry Kessler
2002-09-24 20:35                     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-24 21:11                       ` Larry Kessler
2002-09-24 21:26                         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-25  0:15                           ` Larry Kessler
2002-09-24 21:27                         ` Horst von Brand
2002-09-24 21:50                           ` Larry Kessler
2002-09-25 14:44                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-24 20:54               ` [evlog-dev] " Daniel E. F. Stekloff
2002-09-24 21:04                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-30 22:43                 ` Pavel Machek

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