From: John Gardiner Myers <jgmyers@netscape.com>
To: "Charles 'Buck' Krasic" <krasic@acm.org>
Cc: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>, Dan Kegel <dank@kegel.com>,
Shailabh Nagar <nagar@watson.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-aio <linux-aio@kvack.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
David Miller <davem@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Stephen Tweedie <sct@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] async poll for 2.5
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:29:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DADB020.4060506@netscape.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: xu4lm4zf6ew.fsf@brittany.cse.ogi.edu
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Charles 'Buck' Krasic wrote:
>You can argue that any API is subtly error prone.
>
You can also argue that the earth is flat. It's just that some
arguments have more basis than others.
>With /dev/epoll, it is perfectly feasible to write user level
>wrapper libraries that help avoid the potential pitfalls.
>
In other words, you don't deny the problem. Instead, you work around it
in user space.
Better to fix the API. The kernel has more information than user space
and can do a better job. In the kernel, the problem can be fixed once
and for all, not over and over again in each different wrapper library.
It's not even as if the change would break programs correctly written
to the old API, not that we particularly care about programs written to
the old API.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-16 18:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-10-14 22:36 [PATCH] async poll for 2.5 Shailabh Nagar
2002-10-14 22:54 ` John Myers
2002-10-15 15:05 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-15 17:06 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-15 17:03 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-15 17:18 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-16 2:11 ` Lincoln Dale
2002-10-15 18:09 ` Shailabh Nagar
2002-10-15 18:53 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-15 18:57 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-15 20:25 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-15 21:09 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-15 21:50 ` John Myers
2002-10-15 22:33 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 22:56 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-15 23:23 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-16 19:16 ` John Myers
2002-10-15 21:11 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 22:01 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-15 22:27 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 22:36 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-15 22:41 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-15 23:26 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-15 23:05 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 23:33 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-16 0:05 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-16 0:15 ` John Myers
2002-10-16 14:25 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-16 18:15 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-16 19:20 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-16 23:31 ` epoll (was Re: [PATCH] async poll for 2.5) John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-16 23:51 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-17 18:06 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-17 18:33 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-18 19:02 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-18 19:52 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-19 0:55 ` John Myers
2002-10-19 5:40 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-19 6:59 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-19 17:26 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-19 17:48 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-19 18:52 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-19 20:18 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-19 21:08 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-22 19:35 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-22 20:06 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-22 21:54 ` Erich Nahum
2002-10-22 22:17 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-22 22:25 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-18 21:01 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-18 21:33 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-19 1:05 ` John Myers
2002-10-19 1:27 ` Tervel Atanassov
2002-10-19 18:52 ` John G. Myers
2002-10-19 4:07 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-16 20:06 ` [PATCH] async poll for 2.5 Mark Mielke
2002-10-16 23:48 ` epoll (was Re: [PATCH] async poll for 2.5) John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-17 0:23 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-17 17:45 ` John Myers
2002-10-16 2:45 ` [PATCH] async poll for 2.5 Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-16 14:28 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-17 18:47 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-17 19:20 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-18 3:30 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-16 18:29 ` John Gardiner Myers [this message]
2002-10-16 20:39 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-17 17:59 ` epoll (was Re: [PATCH] async poll for 2.5) John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-21 16:58 ` [PATCH] async poll for 2.5 Alan Cox
2002-10-21 16:50 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-16 19:59 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-16 20:03 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-17 17:43 ` epoll (was Re: [PATCH] async poll for 2.5) John Myers
2002-10-18 17:00 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-18 17:28 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-18 17:41 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-18 18:55 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-18 19:16 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-19 6:56 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-19 16:10 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-22 17:22 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-22 17:46 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-22 17:47 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-22 18:13 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-22 18:18 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-22 18:37 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-22 19:22 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-22 19:28 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-22 19:50 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-22 20:00 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-22 20:23 ` async poll John Myers
2002-10-23 11:10 ` Latest aio code (was Re: [PATCH] async poll for 2.5) Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-10-22 19:49 ` epoll " Davide Libenzi
2002-10-22 18:42 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-22 19:35 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 16:49 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-23 17:39 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-23 18:47 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 21:18 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-23 21:35 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 21:39 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-23 21:54 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 17:49 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-23 18:14 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 18:32 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-23 20:36 ` async poll John Myers
2002-10-23 20:57 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-23 21:23 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-23 21:51 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 21:51 ` bert hubert
2002-10-23 22:10 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 21:54 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-23 22:22 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 22:29 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-23 22:50 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-24 7:32 ` Eduardo Pérez
2002-10-24 15:05 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-23 22:24 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-23 22:30 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 22:53 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 21:13 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-19 17:19 ` epoll (was Re: [PATCH] async poll for 2.5) Davide Libenzi
2002-10-18 18:55 ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-18 19:00 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-15 17:38 ` [PATCH] async poll for 2.5 Shailabh Nagar
2002-10-15 17:50 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-15 18:16 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 18:18 ` Shailabh Nagar
2002-10-15 19:00 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 19:02 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-15 18:59 ` Shailabh Nagar
2002-10-15 19:16 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 19:12 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-15 19:31 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 19:38 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-15 19:55 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 20:36 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-15 20:39 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-15 19:02 ` Davide Libenzi
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