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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: landley@trommello.org
Cc: Guillaume Boissiere <boissiere@adiglobal.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Son of crunch time: the list v1.2.
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 22:02:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DB4B1B9.4070303@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200210211536.25109.landley@trommello.org

Rob Landley wrote:
> 1) Roman  Zippel's new kernel configuration system.
> Announce: http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2002/Oct/6898.html
> Code: http://www.xs4all.nl/~zippel/lc/

I support merge, Linus seemed to support it with the caveat that he said 
he didn't personally see much discussion...


> 2) Ted Tso's new ext2/ext3 code with extended attributes and access control
> lists.
> Announce: http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2002/Oct/6787.html
> Code: bk://extfs.bkbits.net/extfs-2.5-update 
> http://thunk.org/tytso/linux/extfs-2.5

No comment other than I notice tytso's patches got dropped (at least 
once/twice?).  Maybe viro hasn't reviewed them?

IIRC viro had some objections to ACLs in general and how they might not 
necessarily actually improve security -- but I did not see detailed 
elaboration on this.


> 3) Linux Trace Toolkit (LTT) (Karim Yaghmour)
> Announce: http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2002/Oct/7016.html
> Patch: 
> http://opersys.com/ftp/pub/LTT/ExtraPatches/patch-ltt-linux-2.5.44-vanilla-021019-2.2.bz2
> User tools: http://opersys.com/ftp/pub/LTT/TraceToolkit-0.9.6pre2.tgz

I dunno if this needs to be in the kernel...


> 4) Device mapper for Logical Volume Manager (LVM2)  (LVM2 team)  (in -ac tree)
> http://www.sistina.com/products_lvm.htm

Needs sysfs support or devmapperfs support... no need to add a bunch of 
ioctls that will go away eventually.


> 5) VM large page support  (Many people) (in -mm tree)
> http://lse.sourceforge.net/

Rob - this URL doesn't seen to have anything directly to do with large 
page support.

Others-
Is this not already in the kernel?  I still want to actually see someone 
from Oracle actually say "I will use this" or "we find this useful".

[I cynically propose a sys_oracle and be done with it <g>]


> 6) Page table sharing  (Daniel Phillips, Dave McCracken) (in -mm tree)
> http://www.geocrawler.com/mail/msg.php3?msg_id=7855063&list=35
> (A newer version of which seems to be at:)
> http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2002/Oct/6446.html

IMO 2.7.x item...


> 7) Dynamic Probes (dprobes team)
> http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linux/projects/dprobes

why does this need to be the mainline kernel?  this is another type of 
thing that can live as a patch, IMO...


> 8) Zerocopy NFS (Hirokazu Takahashi)
> http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0204.1/0429.html

this is already merged, isn't it??


> 9) High resolution timers (George Anzinger, etc.)
> http://high-res-timers.sourceforge.net/

no comment, I've heard arguments that high-res timers would be useful, 
but haven't read the patch myself so won't comment...


> 10) EVMS (Enterprise Volume Management System) (EVMS team)
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/evms

Sounds like 2.7.x material, viro pointed out several problems ...


> 11) Linux Kernel Crash Dumps (Matt Robinson, LKCD team)
> Announce: http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2002/Oct/7060.html
> Code: http://lkcd.sourceforge.net/

I would personally _love_ to see this merged, but I think it's 2.7.x 
material given the recent comments (unless they get fixed up)


> 12) Rewrite of the console layer (James Simmons)
> http://linuxconsole.sourceforge.net/

needs more review... but hasn't some of this stuff already made it in?
(or am I thinking about fbdev...?)

> 13) Kexec, luanch ELF format linux kernel from Linux (Eric W. Biederman)
> http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2002/Oct/6584.html

Useful, but at the same time not many people will use this I think.  It 
may need to live as a patch for a while, if not for a long while...


> 14) USAGI IPv6.
> 
> Yoshifuji Hideyaki points out that ipv6 is very important overseas
> (where some entire countries make do with a single class B ipv4
> address range).  He says:
> 
> 
>>Well, our IPsec is ready, runs and is tested...
>>ftp://ftp.linux-ipv6.org/pub/usagi/patch/ipsec/

The USAGI guys have been slowly splitting up their patches and 
submitting them... AFAIK DaveM is just waiting on more split-up IPv6 
patches from them...


> 17) Kernel Hooks (IBM kernel team, contact: Richard J. Moore.)
> http://www-124.ibm.com/linux/projects/kernelhooks/

at first glance this seems to have serious issues with being a black 
hole for overriding syscalls-type behavior...


> 19) In-kernel module loader (Rusty Russell.)
> http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2002/Oct/6214.html

most likely 2.7.x material

> 20) Unlimited groups patch (Tim Hockin.)

I dunno if people want to take the hit in the mainline kernel... Maybe 
this should be a CONFIG_xxx option, or live outside as a patch that 
enterprise customers integrate



> 8) ReiserFS 4
> 
> Hans Reiser said:
> 
> 
>>We will send Reiser4 out soon, probably around the 27th.

how mysterious...  ;-)



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-10-22  1:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-19  4:24 Linux v2.5.44 - and offline for a week Linus Torvalds
2002-10-19 12:41 ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-10-19 14:05   ` Russell King
2002-10-19 16:40     ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-10-20  1:58   ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-20 12:59     ` Roman Zippel
2002-10-21  3:51       ` 2.6: Shortlist of Missing Features Rusty Russell
2002-10-21  2:44         ` Rob Landley
2002-10-21  7:43           ` David S. Miller
2002-10-21  7:59             ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
     [not found]               ` <200210202207.21397.landley@trommello.org>
2002-10-21  8:14                 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2002-10-21 11:22           ` [STATUS 2.5] October 21, 2002 Guillaume Boissiere
2002-10-21 20:22             ` Rob Landley
2002-10-22 19:47               ` Andreas Dilger
2002-10-22 19:57                 ` Dave Jones
2002-10-22 20:18                   ` Andreas Dilger
2002-10-23  1:44                     ` Dave Jones
2002-10-22 20:33                   ` Alan Cox
2002-10-21 20:36             ` Son of crunch time: the list v1.2 Rob Landley
2002-10-22  1:54               ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-22  2:02               ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-10-21 21:42                 ` Rob Landley
2002-10-22  2:53                   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-22  2:58                     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-10-22 17:32                     ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-10-22 17:40                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-22 17:48                         ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-10-22 18:25                           ` Alan Cox
2002-10-23 15:36                       ` Rob Landley
2002-10-22  3:20                   ` Robert Love
     [not found]                     ` <200210211900.42772.landley@trommello.org>
2002-10-22  5:04                       ` Robert Love
2002-10-22  9:40                         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-22  6:53                       ` george anzinger
2002-10-22  6:45                   ` george anzinger
     [not found]                     ` <200210221232.IAA03454@mc.com>
2002-10-22 19:24                       ` george anzinger
2002-10-22 10:15                   ` Matt D. Robinson
2002-10-22  2:13                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-22  3:01                 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-10-22  8:14                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-10-22 12:54                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-23 10:28                 ` Vamsi Krishna S .
2002-10-23 16:03                   ` Rob Landley
2002-10-24  7:23                     ` Vamsi Krishna S .
2002-10-22  2:26           ` 2.6: Shortlist of Missing Features Rusty Russell
2002-10-22  5:21             ` David S. Miller
2002-10-21  4:04         ` David S. Miller
2002-10-21 12:39           ` Alan Cox
2002-10-21  4:07         ` Matt D. Robinson
2002-10-21  4:20         ` Skip Ford
2002-10-21 12:38         ` Alan Cox
2002-10-21 13:26           ` Roman Zippel
2002-10-22  3:42           ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-22  3:28             ` Bride of crunch time: list 1.3-ish (was Re: 2.6: Shortlist of Missing Features) Rob Landley
2002-10-20 22:49   ` Linux v2.5.44 - and offline for a week Rob Landley
2002-10-21 10:15     ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-10-21 13:11     ` Dave Jones
2002-10-21 17:55       ` Nicholas Wourms
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-10-22 17:49 Son of crunch time: the list v1.2 Nicholas Berry

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