From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: dcinege@psychosis.com
Cc: landley@trommello.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
reiser@namesys.com, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, davem@redhat.com,
boissiere@adiglobal.com
Subject: Re: Abbott and Costello meet Crunch Time -- Penultimate 2.5 merge candidate list.
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 03:41:49 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DBF9B4D.8020205@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200210300322.17933.dcinege@psychosis.com
Dave Cinege wrote:
>On Wednesday 30 October 2002 2:40, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
>
>
>>untar - cpio is better.
>>
>>
>
>CPIO is commonly used and supported by NO ONE. (rpm, whoppee)
>Kernels even come tar'ed. KISS....
>
Irrelevant to this problem. cpio unpack code is smaller, and its format
allows easy and painless concatenation.
>>initrd - 99% moved out of the kernel
>>
>>
>
>Great...you just killed the high level embedded linux market, and
>the ability to play boot games from GRUB. (Network, etc)
>Initrd is a good **OPTION* to have to fall back on...
>
Correct -- and after the initramfs merge, initrd behavior will be
completely unchanged.
>>do_mounts - moved out of the kernel completely
>>
>>
>
>And he's willing to completely purge initrd and do_mounts NOW???
>
Nothing is being purged. Things are being moved to userspace, making
the kernel smaller and less bloated. The kernel's behavior to the end
user is 100% unchanged.
>>initramfs - should be ready for Linus in the next day or so.
>>
>>
>
>Fire away with the 100K+ bloated POS. I'm backwards compatible,
>could easily add 'linked kernel image' support, and only increase
>the current code by 20K.
>
initramfs decreases the kernel size by a load, thank you very much.
Further, any initrd solution is bloated -- you are using a ram disk and
disk-based filesystem, the sum of which equates to ramfs -- with
additional wasted memory for filesystem and ramdisk overhead.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-30 8:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-10-28 2:17 Abbott and Costello meet Crunch Time -- Penultimate 2.5 merge candidate list Rob Landley
2002-10-28 8:25 ` Vamsi Krishna S .
2002-10-28 9:55 ` Skip Ford
2002-10-28 10:35 ` Vamsi Krishna S .
2002-10-28 10:29 ` Andrew Walrond
2002-10-28 10:40 ` Rob Landley
2002-10-28 12:15 ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-10-28 13:31 ` Dave Jones
2002-10-28 14:05 ` Andrew Walrond
2002-10-28 14:42 ` Andrew Walrond
2002-10-28 15:02 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-30 7:29 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 7:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-30 8:22 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 8:37 ` Russell King
2002-10-30 9:32 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 8:41 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-10-30 8:51 ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-30 9:00 ` Miles Bader
2002-10-30 9:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-30 9:19 ` Miles Bader
2002-10-30 9:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-30 9:38 ` Miles Bader
2002-10-30 9:42 ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-30 10:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-30 9:34 ` Russell King
2002-10-30 10:07 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 9:36 ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-30 10:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-30 9:55 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 9:59 ` Miles Bader
2002-10-30 10:24 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 10:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-30 10:14 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 10:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-30 10:42 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 11:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-30 9:55 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 10:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-11-04 2:13 ` Rob Landley
2002-11-04 7:39 ` Help needed with IRQ on Ali chipset Jacek Pliszka
2002-11-04 13:10 ` Abbott and Costello meet Crunch Time -- Penultimate 2.5 merge candidate list Alan Cox
2002-11-04 22:52 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-04 23:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-11-04 18:16 ` Rob Landley
2002-11-04 23:22 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-10-30 14:32 ` Alan Cox
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