From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: andersen@codepoet.org, Dave Cinege <dcinege@psychosis.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Abbott and Costello meet Crunch Time -- Penultimate 2.5 merge candidate list.
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 05:50:35 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DBFB97B.3090707@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: buo7kg0gtbj.fsf@mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp
Miles Bader wrote:
>Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com> writes:
>
>
>>I'm not saying that initramfs will do
>>this out of the box :) but going from initramfs to "initromfs" should
>>not be a huge leap...
>>
>>
>
>Do you mean by putting the `internal' format that initramfs normally
>uses in RAM, in ROM, and skip the initial decompression step?
>
>Or do you mean have it somehow avoid copying the data areas of the cpio
>stream (i.e. store pointers from the tree-in-ram to the actual data
>blocks in ROM).
>
>I guess the latter sounds cleaner... it would also have the advantage
>that you could have a tree with the bulk of data in ROM, but which
>allowed new files to be written (which would be stored in RAM).
>
>
Well, Linux wants file data in pages, so you would need to be able to
get your kernel to point to page-aligned ROM regions. Otherwise you are
stuck with the same issues as fs/romfs or fs/cramfs or most other Linux
filesystems -- you gotta copy the data into a RAM page before the Linux
VFS will look at it[1]. For the initramfs cpio image itself, it can
either piggyback inside the kernel image, or be loaded separately via
bootloader, from ROM, or some other magic means. Unpacking [what is
essentially] pointers into the ROM would probably involve custom
userland code in an initramfs which mounts and populates a ROM-based
filesystem.
So one way or another you can have all of _your own_ data in ROM, but I
don't want to paint too rosy a picture -- if you want to be smarter than
fs/romfs is now, it will take some additional work. And of course the
ramfs-based rootfs will still be needed as the underlying writable fs.
Jeff
[1] or you can create your own file_operations and eliminate this
restriction... with a bunch of ROM-specific custom code that totally
bypasses the pagecache
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-30 10:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-10-28 2:17 Abbott and Costello meet Crunch Time -- Penultimate 2.5 merge candidate list Rob Landley
2002-10-28 8:25 ` Vamsi Krishna S .
2002-10-28 9:55 ` Skip Ford
2002-10-28 10:35 ` Vamsi Krishna S .
2002-10-28 10:29 ` Andrew Walrond
2002-10-28 10:40 ` Rob Landley
2002-10-28 12:15 ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-10-28 13:31 ` Dave Jones
2002-10-28 14:05 ` Andrew Walrond
2002-10-28 14:42 ` Andrew Walrond
2002-10-28 15:02 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-30 7:29 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 7:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-30 8:22 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 8:37 ` Russell King
2002-10-30 9:32 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 8:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-30 8:51 ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-30 9:00 ` Miles Bader
2002-10-30 9:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-30 9:19 ` Miles Bader
2002-10-30 9:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-30 9:38 ` Miles Bader
2002-10-30 9:42 ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-30 10:50 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-10-30 9:34 ` Russell King
2002-10-30 10:07 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 9:36 ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-30 10:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-30 9:55 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 9:59 ` Miles Bader
2002-10-30 10:24 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 10:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-30 10:14 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 10:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-30 10:42 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 11:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-30 9:55 ` Dave Cinege
2002-10-30 10:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-11-04 2:13 ` Rob Landley
2002-11-04 7:39 ` Help needed with IRQ on Ali chipset Jacek Pliszka
2002-11-04 13:10 ` Abbott and Costello meet Crunch Time -- Penultimate 2.5 merge candidate list Alan Cox
2002-11-04 22:52 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-04 23:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-11-04 18:16 ` Rob Landley
2002-11-04 23:22 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-10-30 14:32 ` Alan Cox
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