From: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
To: vasya vasyaev <vasya197@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Machine's high load when HIGHMEM is enabled
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:40:31 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DDA070F.CF2047BF@digeo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20021119092912.39541.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com
vasya vasyaev wrote:
>
> Hi again,
>
> Let me try to explain what is this all about...
>
> Box has 1 GB of RAM, it's running oracle database.
> After some disk activity disk cache has 400 Mb, so 600
> Mb is free
And the other 400 megabytes will be freed up on demand.
> Oracle is tuned for using of 800 Mb of RAM for SGA (as
> shared memory segment), so Oracle needs 800 Mb of RAM
> to be free before it's start, right ?
No... If that were so, you'd never be able to start any
applications.
> So when oracle starts it can't allocate this 800 Mb
> for SGA and fails to start...
Well, maybe Oracle is failing to start. But maybe that's
not for the reasons you are assuming.
> Where is a problem - in kernel which can't reduce disk
> cache to allow allocating of shared memory segment or
> in oracle ?
If Oracle requests 800 megabytes from the kernel, it will get it.
It won't be able to mlock it (I'm guessing here).
> BTW, free doesn't show that shared memory is in use
> when oracle is started and requested shared memory
> segment is allocated (and ipcs shows it).
Yup, the "shared" accounting is always zero. Maybe we should
fix that, or remove it.
> We need to control disk cache to reduce it as much as
> possible because it's not needed for oracle, much
> better is to allow oracle to control the RAM
> for it's use.
>
> As to compare, on solaris we mount ufs with
> "forcedirectio" mount option, which tells not to use
> disk cache.
Please ensure that the failure is not some Oracle-specific setup
thing, and then provide specific details on the problem which you
are observing. The assumptions which you are making may not be
correct.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-11-19 9:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-11-05 21:38 Machine's high load when HIGHMEM is enabled Nakajima, Jun
2002-11-06 10:14 ` vasya vasyaev
2002-11-06 16:51 ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-06 17:10 ` Dave Jones
2002-11-19 9:29 ` vasya vasyaev
2002-11-19 9:40 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-11-20 1:03 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-11-19 15:35 ` Martin J. Bligh
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-04 19:49 Nakajima, Jun
2002-11-05 9:08 ` vasya vasyaev
2002-11-05 21:10 ` vasya vasyaev
2002-11-03 14:17 vasya vasyaev
2002-11-03 14:32 ` Brian Gerst
2002-11-03 15:00 ` Jens Axboe
2002-11-04 0:43 ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-11-04 18:54 ` vasya vasyaev
2002-11-04 19:27 ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-05 10:36 ` vasya vasyaev
2002-11-03 15:28 ` Martin J. Bligh
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