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From: Rashmi Agrawal <rashmi.agrawal@wipro.com>
To: "Ragnar Kjørstad" <kernel@ragnark.vestdata.no>
Cc: Jesse Pollard <pollard@admin.navo.hpc.mil>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Failover in NFS
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:37:50 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DDDD7C6.D09B2501@wipro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20021118232230.F30589@vestdata.no

Hi all,

As an alternative to NFS, how about using OpenAFS(Andrew file system) which
happens to provide following

1. Failover
2. Common namespace
3. Client cachin and efficient wide area protocol for excellent performance.

Or how about using SAMBA.

Any views on the pros and cons??

Regards
Rashmi
Ragnar Kjørstad wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 04:11:06PM -0600, Jesse Pollard wrote:
> > > No, you need to move the IP-address from the old nfs-server to the new
> > > one. Then to the clients it will look like a regular reboot. (Check out
> > > heartbeat, at http://www.linux-ha.org/)
> > >
> > > You need to make sure that NFS is using the shared ip (the one you move
> > > around) rather than the fixed ip. (I assume you will have a fixed ip on
> > > each host in addition to the one you move around). Also, you need to put
> > > /var/lib/nfs on shared stoarage. See the archive for more details.
> >
> > It would actually be better to use two floating IP numbers. That way during
> > normal operation, both servers would be functioning simultaneously
> > (based on the shared storage on two nodes).
> >
> > Then during failover, the floating IP of the failed node is activated on the
> > remaining node (total of 3 IP numbers now, one real, two floating). The NFS
> > recovery cycle should then cause the clients to remount the filesystem from
> > the backup server.
>
> Yes, that would be better.
>
> But it would not work as described above. There are some important
> limitations here:
>
> - I assumed that /var/lib/nfs is shared. If you want two servers to
>   be active at once you need a different way to share lock-data.
>
> - AFAIK there is no way for statd to service 2 IP's at once.
>   It will (AFAIK) bind to both adresses, but the problem is the
>   message that is sent out at startup and includes the ip of
>   the local host.
>
> Neither limitation is a law of nature. They can be fixed. I think there
> is work going on to change the way locks are stored, and I'm sure the
> second problem can be solved as well.
>
> There may be solutions out there already. E.g. maybe Lifekeeper or
> Convolo include better support for this?
>
> --
> Ragnar Kjørstad
> Big Storage


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-11-22  7:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-18 15:04 Failover in NFS Rashmi Agrawal
2002-11-18 15:44 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2002-11-18 22:11   ` Jesse Pollard
2002-11-18 22:22     ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2002-11-18 22:41       ` Jesse Pollard
2002-11-18 22:51         ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2002-11-19  1:36       ` Michael Clark
2002-11-19  5:07         ` Rashmi Agrawal
2002-11-19  7:40           ` Michael Clark
2002-11-22  7:07       ` Rashmi Agrawal [this message]
2002-11-21 20:58     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-21 22:52       ` Jesse Pollard
2002-11-22 19:19         ` Gunther Mayer
2002-11-18 22:33 ` Jan Niehusmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-19 18:24 Juan Gomez

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