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From: Eli Carter <eli.carter@inet.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>,
	Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
Subject: Re: Freezing.. (was Re: Intel P6 vs P7 system call performance)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:06:42 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E00AB22.4020902@inet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.44.0212180844550.29852-100000@home.transmeta.com

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Dave Jones wrote:
> 
>>On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 10:40:24AM -0300, Horst von Brand wrote:
>> > [Extremely interesting new syscall mechanism tread elided]
>> >
>> > What happened to "feature freeze"?
>>
>>*bites lip* it's fairly low impact *duck*.
> 
> 
> However, it's a fair question.
> 
> I've been wondering how to formalize patch acceptance at code freeze, but
> it might be a good idea to start talking about some way to maybe put
> brakes on patches earlier, ie some kind of "required approval process".
> 
> I think the system call thing is very localized and thus not a big issue,
> but in general we do need to have something in place.
> 
> I just don't know what that "something" should be. Any ideas? I thought
> about the code freeze require buy-in from three of four people (me, Alan,
> Dave and Andrew come to mind) for a patch to go in, but that's probably
> too draconian for now. Or is it (maybe start with "needs approval by two"
> and switch it to three when going into code freeze)?

Well, Linus, you're not the most conservative when it comes to freezes. 
   (Hey! Watch it with those thunderbolts!)  Alan, on the other hand, I 
would trust to be pretty conservative.
I'm afraid I haven't followed Dave & Andrew well enough in that light.

But my question is... if 2 are required, and say, Dave is as slushy on 
freezes as you are, then have we gained much?

Perhaps 2 of 4 approve with no dissenting votes?

If Dave and Andrew are relatively conservative on freezes, then this 
concern is sufficiently addressed already.

Food for thought from a relative nobody. ;)

Eli
--------------------. "If it ain't broke now,
Eli Carter           \                  it will be soon." -- crypto-gram
eli.carter(a)inet.com `-------------------------------------------------


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-12-18 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 176+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-09  8:30 Intel P6 vs P7 system call performance Mike Hayward
2002-12-09 15:40 ` erich
2002-12-09 17:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-09 19:36   ` Dave Jones
2002-12-09 19:46     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-28 20:37       ` Ville Herva
2002-12-29  2:05         ` Christian Leber
2002-12-30 18:22           ` Christian Leber
2002-12-30 21:22             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-30 11:29         ` Dave Jones
2002-12-17  0:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17  1:03       ` Dave Jones
2002-12-17  2:36         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17  5:55           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17  6:09             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17  6:18               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-19 14:03                 ` Shuji YAMAMURA
2002-12-17  6:19               ` GrandMasterLee
2002-12-17  6:43               ` dean gaudet
2002-12-17 16:50                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17 19:11                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-17 21:39                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-12-17 21:41                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-17 21:53                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-12-18 23:53                 ` Pavel Machek
2002-12-19 22:18                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-19 22:21                     ` Pavel Machek
2002-12-19 22:23                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-19 22:26                         ` Pavel Machek
2002-12-19 22:30                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-19 22:34                             ` Pavel Machek
2002-12-19 22:36                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-17 19:12               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-17 19:26                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-17 20:51                   ` Alan Cox
2002-12-17 20:16                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-17 20:49                 ` Alan Cox
2002-12-17 20:12                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-17  9:45             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-12-17 12:40               ` Dave Jones
2002-12-17 23:18                 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-12-17 15:12               ` Alan Cox
2002-12-18 23:55                 ` Pavel Machek
2002-12-19 22:17                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-17 10:53             ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-12-17 11:17               ` dada1
2002-12-17 17:33                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-12-17 17:06               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17 17:55                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-12-17 18:01                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17 19:23                   ` Alan Cox
2002-12-17 18:48                     ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-12-17 19:19                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-17 19:44                       ` Alan Cox
2002-12-17 19:52                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-12-17 19:54                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-17 19:58                           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-18  7:20                             ` Kai Henningsen
2002-12-17 18:49                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17 19:09                       ` Ross Biro
2002-12-17 21:34                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-12-17 21:36                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-17 21:50                           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-12-18 23:59               ` Pavel Machek
2002-12-17 16:12             ` Hugh Dickins
2002-12-17 16:33               ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-12-17 17:47                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17 16:54               ` Hugh Dickins
2002-12-17 17:07               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17 17:19                 ` Matti Aarnio
2002-12-17 17:55                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17 18:24                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17 18:33                       ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-12-17 18:30                     ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-12-17 19:04                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17 19:19                         ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-12-17 19:28                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17 19:32                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-17 19:44                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17 19:53                           ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-12-17 20:01                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17 20:17                               ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-12-18  4:15                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-18  4:15                               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-18  4:39                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-18  4:49                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-18  6:38                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-18 13:17                                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-12-18 13:40                                 ` Horst von Brand
2002-12-18 13:47                                   ` Sean Neakums
2002-12-18 14:10                                     ` Horst von Brand
2002-12-18 14:51                                       ` dada1
2002-12-18 19:12                                       ` Mark Mielke
2002-12-18 15:52                                   ` Alan Cox
2002-12-18 16:41                                   ` Dave Jones
2002-12-18 16:49                                     ` Freezing.. (was Re: Intel P6 vs P7 system call performance) Linus Torvalds
2002-12-18 16:56                                       ` Larry McVoy
2002-12-18 16:58                                       ` Dave Jones
2002-12-18 17:41                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-18 18:03                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-18 18:09                                             ` Mike Dresser
2002-12-23 12:34                                               ` Kai Henningsen
2002-12-18 19:08                                           ` Alan Cox
2002-12-18 19:23                                             ` Larry McVoy
2002-12-18 19:30                                               ` Alan Cox
2002-12-18 19:33                                                 ` Larry McVoy
2002-12-18 19:42                                                   ` Alan Cox
2002-12-18 19:45                                                     ` Larry McVoy
2002-12-18 20:39                                                       ` John Bradford
2002-12-18 22:08                                                         ` Larry McVoy
2002-12-18 22:37                                                           ` John Bradford
2002-12-19  1:09                                                             ` Alan Cox
2002-12-19  0:37                                                               ` Russell King
2002-12-19  0:58                                                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-19  1:43                                                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-19 10:50                                                                 ` Dave Jones
2002-12-19  0:59                                                               ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 10:27                                                                 ` Dave Jones
2002-12-19  1:17                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-19  0:08                                                           ` Alan Cox
2002-12-19  0:53                                                             ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 13:17                                                           ` Stephen Satchell
2002-12-19  5:34                                             ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-12-19  6:43                                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-19  5:45                                                 ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-12-19  7:05                                               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-19  6:08                                                 ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-12-18 19:50                                           ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-12-18 17:06                                       ` Eli Carter [this message]
2002-12-18 17:08                                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-18 18:25                                       ` John Alvord
2002-12-18 18:41                                     ` Intel P6 vs P7 system call performance Horst von Brand
2002-12-17 19:26                       ` Alan Cox
2002-12-17 18:57                         ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-12-17 19:10                           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17 19:21                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-17 19:37                               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-17 19:43                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-17 20:07                                   ` Matti Aarnio
2002-12-17 20:10                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-17 19:59                                 ` Matti Aarnio
2002-12-17 20:06                                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-12-17 20:35                                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-12-18  0:20                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-18  0:38                                     ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-12-18  7:41                                 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-12-18 13:00                                 ` Rogier Wolff
2002-12-17 19:47                             ` Dave Jones
2002-12-18 12:57                             ` Rogier Wolff
2002-12-19  0:14                               ` Pavel Machek
2002-12-17 21:38                           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-12-17 21:41                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-17 18:39                     ` Jeff Dike
2002-12-17 19:05                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-18  5:34                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2002-12-18  5:38                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-18 15:50                       ` Alan Cox
2002-12-18 23:51             ` Pavel Machek
2002-12-13 15:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-13 16:49   ` Mike Hayward
2002-12-14  0:55     ` GrandMasterLee
2002-12-14  4:41       ` Mike Dresser
2002-12-14  4:53         ` Mike Dresser
2002-12-14 10:01           ` Dave Jones
2002-12-14 17:48             ` Mike Dresser
2002-12-14 18:36             ` GrandMasterLee
2002-12-15  2:03               ` J.A. Magallon
2002-12-15 21:59   ` Pavel Machek
2002-12-15 22:37     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-15 22:43       ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-12-18 22:00 Freezing.. (was Re: Intel P6 vs P7 system call performance) Nakajima, Jun
     [not found] <20021218161506.M7976@work.bitmover.com>
2002-12-19  0:18 ` Alan Cox
2002-12-19  0:37   ` Larry McVoy
2002-12-19  1:08 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-19  9:13 ` Russell King
2002-12-19 16:39   ` Eli Carter

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