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From: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
To: Andre Hedrick <andre@pyxtechnologies.com>
Cc: Oliver Xymoron <oxymoron@waste.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux iSCSI Initiator, OpenSource (fwd) (Re: Gauntlet Set NOW!)
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 17:51:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E19B401.7A9E47D5@linux-m68k.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.10.10301051924140.421-100000@master.linux-ide.org

Hi,

> If you know anything about iSCSI RFC draft and how storage truly works.
> Cisco gets it wrong, they do not believe in supporting the full RFC.
> So you get ERL=0, and now they turned of the "Header and Data Digests",
> this is equal to turning off the iCRC in ATA, or CRC in SCSI between the
> controller and the device.  For those people who think removing the
> checksum test for the integrity of the data and command operations, you
> get what you deserve.

Ever heard of TCP checksums? Ever heard of ethernet checksums? Which
transport doesn't use checksums nowadays? The digest makes only sense if
you can generate it for free in hardware or for debugging, otherwise
it's only a waste of cpu time. This makes the complete ERL 1 irrelevant
for a software implementation. With block devices you can even get away
with just ERL 0 to implement transparent recovery.

bye, Roman


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-01-07  0:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-05  1:54 Linux iSCSI Initiator, OpenSource (fwd) (Re: Gauntlet Set NOW!) Andre Hedrick
2003-01-05  2:47 ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-05  3:26   ` NEURONET
2003-01-05  4:11     ` NEURONET
2003-01-05  4:41   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-05  6:16     ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-06  3:06   ` Oliver Xymoron
2003-01-06  3:38     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-06  5:24       ` Oliver Xymoron
2003-01-06 10:24       ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-06 16:51       ` Roman Zippel [this message]
2003-01-07  0:28         ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-07 20:36           ` Roman Zippel
2003-01-07 22:45             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-08  0:04               ` Roman Zippel
2003-01-08  1:43                 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-08  1:08                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-08 16:48               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-01-08 19:37                 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-07  0:39         ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-07  4:20           ` Oliver Xymoron
2003-01-07  5:38             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-07  6:16               ` Werner Almesberger
2003-01-07  6:43                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-07  7:08                   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-01-07  8:00                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-07  8:14                       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-01-07  8:41                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-07 17:07                           ` Werner Almesberger
2003-01-07 12:12                     ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-07  6:45               ` Lincoln Dale
2003-01-07  7:02                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-07 11:24             ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-07 10:31           ` Olivier Galibert
2003-01-08 19:10             ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-01-08 20:09               ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-08 20:40                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-07 12:31           ` Alan Cox
2003-01-07 12:31             ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-07 13:58               ` Alan Cox
2003-01-07 23:09                 ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-07 16:21               ` Oliver Xymoron
2003-01-07 13:04         ` Lionel Bouton
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.10.10301051924140.421-100000@master.linux-ide.o rg>
2003-01-06  7:14       ` Lincoln Dale
2003-01-06  7:53         ` Linux iSCSI Initiator Andre Hedrick
     [not found]         ` <Pine.LNX.4.10.10301052337150.421-100000@master.linux-ide.o rg>
2003-01-06  9:10           ` Lincoln Dale
2003-01-06  9:28             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-06  3:25   ` Linux iSCSI Initiator, OpenSource (fwd) (Re: Gauntlet Set NOW!) Richard Stallman
2003-01-06  4:08     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-06 20:49       ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-05 22:51 Adam J. Richter
     [not found] <fa.kccjmvv.13go3jp@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.hjtum4v.fki8p1@ifi.uio.no>
2003-01-08  1:07   ` walt

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