Re: [INTEL PII BUG] Still SMBALERT# spontaneous shutdown on VAIO Serie F

Re: [INTEL PII BUG] Still SMBALERT# spontaneous shutdown on VAIO Serie F

[Manfred Spraul]

>
>
>Still having the problem of the spontaneous shutdown on a VAIO serie F
>laptop due to a bug in the thermal sensor of the PII celeron. There is no
>ACPI, nor APM, nor I2C / SMBus builded in the kernel.
>  
>
Are you sure that the shutdown is connected to the errata?

The system shutdown is probably triggered by the BIOS SMI handler - SMI 
can interrupt the linux kernel, and the bios takes over control of the 
system.

Are there any bios upgrades for laptop?

--
    Manfred

Re: [INTEL PII BUG] Still SMBALERT# spontaneous shutdown on VAIO Serie F

[Florent CHANTRET]

Hi,

I've already updated my bios to the last revision but Sony give a poor
support to those customers. I won't buy a VAIO anymore !

As I've read on the website spokin' about VAIO problems, the problem seems
to be connected to that, but yes, why not, it could be the SMI handler too.
I only know that the sotware could solve it antd that's one of the several
power of Linux other Windows.

Regards,
Florent CHANTRET

----- Original Message -----
From: "Manfred Spraul" <manfred@colorfullife.com>
To: "Florent CHANTRET" <florent@chantret.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [INTEL PII BUG] Still SMBALERT# spontaneous shutdown on VAIO
Serie F


> >
> >
> >Still having the problem of the spontaneous shutdown on a VAIO serie F
> >laptop due to a bug in the thermal sensor of the PII celeron. There is no
> >ACPI, nor APM, nor I2C / SMBus builded in the kernel.
> >
> >
> Are you sure that the shutdown is connected to the errata?
>
> The system shutdown is probably triggered by the BIOS SMI handler - SMI
> can interrupt the linux kernel, and the bios takes over control of the
> system.
>
> Are there any bios upgrades for laptop?
>
> --
>     Manfred
>
>
>
>


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Re: [INTEL PII BUG] Still SMBALERT# spontaneous shutdown on VAIO Serie F

[Manfred Spraul]

Florent CHANTRET wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I've already updated my bios to the last revision but Sony give a poor
>support to those customers. I won't buy a VAIO anymore !
>
>As I've read on the website spokin' about VAIO problems, the problem seems
>to be connected to that, but yes, why not, it could be the SMI handler too.
>I only know that the sotware could solve it antd that's one of the several
>power of Linux other Windows.
>  
>
Which kernel do you use, and could you try to enable ACPI?
If it doesn't help, try the latest acpi patch from 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/acpi/

--
    Manfred

[INTEL PII BUG] Still SMBALERT# spontaneous shutdown on VAIO Serie F

[Florent CHANTRET]

Hi there,

Still having the problem of the spontaneous shutdown on a VAIO serie F
laptop due to a bug in the thermal sensor of the PII celeron. There is no
ACPI, nor APM, nor I2C / SMBus builded in the kernel.

In fact, I have build a really minimal kernel with only this :

- No prompt for development / incomplete code / drivers
- No loadable module support
- Processor PIII / Coppermine
- ISA bus without plug and play
- ELF (kernel core) and a.out / ELF binaries support
- ram disk of 32000 ko + initrd support
- Enhanced ATA / IDE / ATAPI support with IDE/ATA-2 disk support, multi-mode
and CMD640 bugfix
- Virtual terminal + support for console
- ext3, virtual memory, /proc and ext2 file system
- VGA text console

I don't know the kernel internals not the UNIX / Linux programming scheme at
the moment but I don't see the problem anywhere else than for the piece of
code managing the processor (or the kernel core, interrupts perhaps ?). I
doubt that there is the functionnality to shutdown the machine in ISA bus,
binaries support, ramdisk, IDE, filesystems or virtual terminal. Am I right
?

I'm sure that the bug is caused by SMBALERT# in the SMBus specification
refering to this Intel spec :

http://www.intel.com/design/mobile/applnots/24372401.pdf

and
http://cipsa.physik.uni-freiburg.de/~zwerger/Vaio/Intel_Mobile_Temp-Prob.pdf

I would like to create a kernel patch for this bug in order for all VAIO
Serie F customers (and some others mobo that have too the SMBALERT# bug) to
run without spontaneous shutdown and I'm sure there is a solution cause lilo
prompt / MS-DOS don't shutdown and disabling Intel 8271EB power controller
in
Windows 98 solve the problem on this crappy OS ;o).

I'll try to look at the kernel source but no idea if I'll find the few lines
of code that drive it (I'm really surprising that disabling all the power
managment features don't solve this annoying problem at all) so if someone
has some tricks, advices, better knowledges about the kernel and where
could be the solution for this bug... thanks in advance.

Regards,
Florent CHANTRET



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