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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: "J.A. Magallon" <jamagallon@able.es>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Perl in the toolchain
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 18:27:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E3B066B.8010905@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030131213827.GA1541@werewolf.able.es>

J.A. Magallon wrote:
> On 2003.01.31 Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>>On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 01:41:26PM -0600, Kai Germaschewski wrote:
>>
>>>Generally, we've been trying to not make perl a prequisite for the kernel 
>>>build, and I'd like to keep it that way. Except for some arch specific 
>>
>>That's pretty much out the window when klibc gets merged, so perl will
>>indeed be a build requirement for all platforms...
>>
> 
> 
> So in short, kernel people:
> - do not want perl in the kernel build
> - allow qt to pollute the kernel to have a decent gui config tool
> - have to rewrite half perl features in C
> - but perl will be needed anyways
> 
> instead of
> - do all parsing in perl, that is what perl is for and what is mainly done
>   in kconfig scripts
> - do the config backend in perl, and...
> - do the gui in perl-XXX, so you can have perl-GTK, perl-GTK2, perl-QT or 
>   perl-Tk, even perl-Xaw (so you get rid of tcl/tk)
> 
> I really do not understand...


Well, you appear to be taking the superset of opinions, which is 
guaranteed to generate a paradox, I should think ;-)

Specifically regarding kconf, it does not require Qt; Qt is merely an 
optional piece.

For Perl, yes I personally think it is needed anyway.  And re-creating 
Perl's features in C, just to avoid Perl, is not the best technical 
solution when developers already have Perl installed.

	Jeff




  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-01-31 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-31 18:39 Perl in the toolchain Pete Zaitcev
2003-01-31 19:41 ` Kai Germaschewski
2003-01-31 19:48   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-31 19:55     ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2003-01-31 20:41     ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-01-31 22:50       ` Ben Greear
2003-01-31 21:38     ` J.A. Magallon
2003-01-31 22:22       ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-01-31 23:23         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-02-01  0:29           ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-02-01 12:12           ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-01-31 23:40         ` J.A. Magallon
     [not found]         ` <mailman.1044055681.1939.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2003-02-01  1:06           ` Pete Zaitcev
2003-02-01  6:02             ` Ryan Anderson
2003-01-31 22:51       ` Roman Zippel
2003-01-31 23:27       ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2003-01-31 23:40         ` J.A. Magallon
2003-01-31 23:40           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-02-01  0:01           ` Roman Zippel
2003-02-01  0:05             ` J.A. Magallon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-31 20:13 Ed Vance
2003-02-01  3:28 ` Scott Robert Ladd

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