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From: Crispin Cowan <crispin@wirex.com>
To: "'Christoph Hellwig'" <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: torvalds@transmeta.com, LA Walsh <law@tlinx.org>,
	linux-security-module@wirex.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BK PATCH] LSM changes for 2.5.59
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:33:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E4763C8.5090100@wirex.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20030210082140.A16436@infradead.org

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'Christoph Hellwig' wrote:

>On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 07:40:17PM -0800, Crispin Cowan wrote:
>  
>
>>[move security logic out to a module] It has many nice properties, but is much more invasive to the 
>>kernel. I think it is a very interesting idea for 2.7, and should be 
>>floated past the maintainers who will be impacted to see if it has a 
>>hope in hell.
>>    
>>
>*nod* and until we get that gets implemented we should remove the current
>mess..
>
Am I parsing this correctly, that we actually agree on something? :-) 
I.e. that the idea of moving all the security logic to a module has merit.

Naturally, I disagree that we should remove the current LSM. The current 
version was designed to be what Linus asked for. Many LSM people like 
the idea of moving all the security logic out to a module, as it makes 
the interface much cleaner. But it is also waaay beyond the scope of 
what Linus asked for. It involves re-factoring so much code that we did 
not think it could be done correctly on the first try, never mind trying 
to get many code maintainers to accept much larger patches.

Crispin

-- 
Crispin Cowan, Ph.D.
Chief Scientist, WireX                      http://wirex.com/~crispin/
Security Hardened Linux Distribution:       http://immunix.org
Available for purchase: http://wirex.com/Products/Immunix/purchase.html
			    Just say ".Nyet"


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  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-10  8:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-06 15:02 [BK PATCH] LSM changes for 2.5.59 Stephen D. Smalley
2003-02-06 15:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-06 17:16   ` David Wagner
2003-02-06 17:45     ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-06 17:51   ` Alan Cox
2003-02-08  2:20   ` jmjones
2003-02-08  4:13     ` Miles Bader
2003-02-09 20:06     ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-10  1:39       ` Crispin Cowan
2003-02-10  3:02         ` LA Walsh
2003-02-10  3:40           ` Crispin Cowan
2003-02-10  7:34             ` LA Walsh
2003-02-10  8:11               ` Chris Wright
2003-02-10  8:21             ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-02-10  8:33               ` Crispin Cowan [this message]
2003-02-10  8:39                 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-02-10 13:31             ` Alan Cox
2003-02-10 17:29             ` Casey Schaufler
2003-02-12  8:12               ` side issues of baloney with that ham...(was LSM changes for 2.5.59) LA Walsh
2003-02-10 20:51             ` [BK PATCH] LSM changes for 2.5.59 LA Walsh
2003-02-10 21:36               ` David Wagner
2003-02-10 22:14             ` Bill Davidsen
2003-02-11  1:35               ` Dave Jones
2003-02-11 13:59                 ` the modules problems Roman Zippel
2003-02-11 19:44                 ` [BK PATCH] LSM changes for 2.5.59 Bill Davidsen
2003-02-10  4:06           ` J Sloan
2003-02-10  5:59       ` David Wagner
2003-02-10  7:31         ` Christoph Hellwig
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-13  4:08 Mika Kukkonen
2003-02-12 16:58 Makan Pourzandi (LMC)
2003-02-12 18:45 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-02-12 19:11 ` magniett
2003-02-12 18:38   ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-02-12 22:22     ` Crispin Cowan
2003-02-12 15:37 Pete Loscocco
     [not found] <b28k4f$hp4$1@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu>
2003-02-12  8:27 ` LA Walsh
2003-02-10 19:57 Stephen D. Smalley
2003-02-10 22:38 ` LA Walsh
2003-02-10 16:55 Stephen D. Smalley
2003-02-11  8:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-13 11:08   ` Chris Wright
2003-02-05 16:59 Stephen D. Smalley
2003-02-05 16:47 Stephen D. Smalley
2003-02-05 16:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 22:07   ` Greg KH
2003-02-05 22:30     ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 22:39       ` Russell Coker
2003-02-05 22:41         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 15:00 Stephen D. Smalley
2003-02-05 15:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 16:26 ` Mark Hahn
2003-02-05 13:45 Stephen D. Smalley
2003-02-05 14:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05  4:15 Greg KH
2003-02-05  8:47 ` Christoph Hellwig

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