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From: george anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
Cc: async@cc.gatech.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] limits on SCHED_FIFO tasks
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:22:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E7828C3.2070304@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030318190407.37a39db1.akpm@digeo.com>

Andrew Morton wrote:
> george anzinger <george@mvista.com> wrote:
> 
>>If the issue is regaining control after some RT task goes into a loop, 
>>the way this is usually done is to keep a session around with a higher 
>>priority.  Using this concept, one might provide tools that, from 
>>userland, insure that such a session exists prior to launching the 
>>"suspect" code.  I fail to see the need for this sort of code in the 
>>kernel.
> 
> 
> That works, until your shell calls ext3_mark_inode_dirty(), which blocks on
> kjournald activity.  kjournald is SCHED_OTHER, and never runs...
> 
That is classic priority inversion.  It would be "nice" to find a fix 
for that :)  I think that the proposed action should not be triggered 
until there is some "notice" that something is wrong.  I suppose it 
could be a watchdog timer of some sort.  Still, if the priority 
inversion issue were solved, all the rest could be done in user land.

> 
> 

-- 
George Anzinger   george@mvista.com
High-res-timers:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
Preemption patch: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml


      reply	other threads:[~2003-03-19  8:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-18 23:51 [PATCH] limits on SCHED_FIFO tasks rm
2003-03-19  1:12 ` george anzinger
2003-03-19  2:38   ` rm
2003-03-19  3:04   ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-19  8:22     ` george anzinger [this message]

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