From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262198AbTDHWpA (for ); Tue, 8 Apr 2003 18:45:00 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262219AbTDHWpA (for ); Tue, 8 Apr 2003 18:45:00 -0400 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:49835 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262198AbTDHWo6 (for ); Tue, 8 Apr 2003 18:44:58 -0400 Message-ID: <3E93538C.9010306@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 18:56:12 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik Organization: none User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021213 Debian/1.2.1-2.bunk X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jt@hpl.hp.com CC: Linux kernel mailing list , Dominik Brodowski Subject: Re: [PATCHES 2.5.67] PCMCIA hotplugging, in-kernel-matching and depmod support References: <20030408223111.GA25785@bougret.hpl.hp.com> In-Reply-To: <20030408223111.GA25785@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > Jeff Garzik wrote : >>That was a big stumbling block when I last looked at the "big picture" >>for pcmcia -- in-kernel drivers still required probe assistance from >>userspace via the /etc/pcmcia/* bindings. > > > No ! Please don't do that, it will only bring madness. Nope. It's already a solved problem :) More below... > Example : > Lucent/Agere Orinoco wireless card : > manfid 0x0156,0x0002 > possible drivers : wlan_cs ; orinoco_cs > Intersil PrismII and clones (Linksys, ...) : > manfid 0x0156,0x0002 > possible drivers : prism2_cs ; hostap_cs > > Please explain me in details how your stuff will cope with the > above, and how to make sure the right driver is loaded in every case > and how user can control this. > If your scheme can't cope with the simple real life example > above (I've got those cards on my desk, and those drivers on my disk), > then it's no good to me. These cases already exist for PCI, so pcmcia behavior should follow what the kernel does when the PCI core sees such. Jeff