From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264119AbTDWQbp (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:31:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264120AbTDWQbp (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:31:45 -0400 Received: from fed1mtao03.cox.net ([68.6.19.242]:47803 "EHLO fed1mtao03.cox.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264119AbTDWQal (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:30:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3EA6C0F9.1010406@cox.net> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 09:36:09 -0700 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4a) Gecko/20030401 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LKML Subject: Re: 2.5.68 kernel no initrd References: <000701c306f6$cf100180$0200a8c0@satellite> <1050859494.595.4.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com> <200304231600.h3NG0aCs019316@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> In-Reply-To: <200304231600.h3NG0aCs019316@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 15:49:54 +0200, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_Go=B3aszewski?= said: > >>initrd gives much more flexibility. >>I can make one kernel and use it on _all_ of my mashines, just change >>initrd. quick, nice and flexible with proper initrd tools set. > > > Amen. initrd isn't just for modules - I'd not need an initrd at all if I could > figure out how to start up an LVM volume group from kernelspace - I suspect > people with / on a RAID disk have similar issues... > Well, even though I'm working on a solution to that, it still involves early userspace, just not the heavyweight "fake root" userspace that an initrd represents. This is what the initramfs technology in 2.5.X is for, so eventually (soon, hopefully) you'll be able to start md devices, LVM volume groups, etc. from early userspace and not have to have any autostart logic in the kernel nor will you have build and maintain an initrd separate from the kernel.