From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262335AbTD3T0t (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:26:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262342AbTD3T0t (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:26:49 -0400 Received: from watch.techsource.com ([209.208.48.130]:13703 "EHLO techsource.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262335AbTD3T0s (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:26:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3EB026D8.2070508@techsource.com> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:41:12 -0400 From: Timothy Miller User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu CC: Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Why DRM exists [was Re: Flame Linus to a crisp!] References: <170EBA504C3AD511A3FE00508BB89A9202032941@exnanycmbx4.ipc.com> <20030430152041.GA22038@work.bitmover.com> <3EB013A1.9030301@techsource.com> <200304301920.h3UJKE5J007310@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:19:13 EDT, Timothy Miller said: > > >>I mean, when will Sun, IBM, or Compaq ever start shipping tcsh or bash >>as the default shell? Don't they realize that people make typos and >>would like to reedit the line they just typed? Why are they still in >>the dark ages? > > > Odd.. I use the vendor-provided 'ksh' on Solaris, AIX, and Tru64 (now an HP > product), and they all have supported re-editing the line just typed for > *years* (I can't prove it's over a decade, but I'm fairly sure it is). > > Remember that a major reason for 'bash' being created was because of licensing > issues with the 'ksh' source. I am vaguely familiar with that. It uses vi-like editing commands? Sounds great. Why isn't THAT the default shell? Why are these usability perks not a priority to commercial vendors? Why are they a priority for open source developers?