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From: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
To: Robert White <rwhite@casabyte.com>
Cc: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	Nikita Danilov <Nikita@namesys.com>,
	Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>,
	elladan@eskimo.com, Rik van Riel <riel@imladris.surriel.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	ptb@it.uc3m.es, "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, root@chaos.analogic.com
Subject: Re: recursive spinlocks. Shoot.
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 12:50:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ED4E8E6.8060400@techsource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: PEEPIDHAKMCGHDBJLHKGMEMJCMAA.rwhite@casabyte.com

Someone's probably already suggested this, but here goes...

If you REALLY have places where multiple levels may try to grab the same 
spinlock, and you would therefore have lock contention with yourself, 
why not just use multiple spinlocks?  So if you often call B(), which 
grabs lock X, but sometimes you call A() which also needs lock X, but 
A() calls B() which therefore causes self contention, why not have A() 
use lock Y instead?  Treat what A() uses as a separate resource?  Or 
here's another idea:  Why not have A() unlock before calling B()?

Oh, and there's the obvious idea of passing parameters around which 
indicate whether or not a lock has been taken, although that's certainly 
a pain.

I do see some value in tracking lock ownership.  But what do you do 
about the unlocks?  Do you keep a refcount and unlock when it reaches 
zero?  Now, not only do you have to deal with locks across function 
calls, but you have to make sure everything unravels properly.  Sounds 
difficult.


  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-28 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-18  9:21 recursive spinlocks. Shoot Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-18 16:30 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-18 16:35   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-18 16:49     ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-18 16:54       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-18 17:14         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-18 17:24     ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-18 22:34       ` David Woodhouse
2003-05-19 13:37         ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-19 13:45           ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-19 13:47           ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]           ` <mailman.1053352200.24653.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2003-05-19 23:54             ` Pete Zaitcev
2003-05-20  0:03               ` viro
2003-05-20  0:03               ` Johannes Erdfelt
2003-05-20  3:12         ` Robert White
2003-05-20 11:59           ` Helge Hafting
2003-05-20 12:23             ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-20 21:05               ` Robert White
2003-05-20 21:42                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-20 23:06                   ` Robert White
2003-05-21 14:01                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-21 21:56                       ` Robert White
2003-05-22  0:13                         ` viro
2003-05-22  0:32                           ` Robert White
2003-05-22  0:46                         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-21  5:48                   ` Nikita Danilov
2003-05-22  1:00           ` Rik van Riel
2003-05-22  3:11             ` Robert White
2003-05-22  4:04               ` Nick Piggin
2003-05-22  4:42                 ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-22  5:09                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-05-23  0:19                 ` Robert White
2003-05-23  7:22                   ` Nikita Danilov
2003-05-23  9:07                     ` Helge Hafting
2003-05-23 12:18                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-24  2:39                       ` Robert White
2003-05-28 16:50                         ` Timothy Miller [this message]
2003-05-19  2:05       ` Kevin O'Connor
2003-05-19  6:19       ` Jan Hudec
2003-05-19 10:29       ` Helge Hafting
2003-05-19 11:37         ` Nikita Danilov
2003-05-22  1:21           ` Daniel Phillips
2003-05-19 14:28       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-18 18:13 ` Davide Libenzi
     [not found] <20030518182010$0541@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-05-18 19:09 ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-18 19:31   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-18 19:49     ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-18 20:13       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-19 20:47   ` Jan Hudec
     [not found] <20030518202013$5297@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-05-18 23:15 ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-18 23:26   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-19 12:48     ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-19 17:15       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-19 17:27         ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-19 17:57           ` Alan Cox
2003-05-19 19:51         ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-19 20:22   ` Robert White
     [not found] <20030520231013$3d77@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-05-21 14:16 ` Peter T. Breuer

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