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From: Eric Valette <eric.valette@free.fr>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>
Cc: marcelo@conectiva.com.br, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4.22 timeline was RE: 2.4.21-rc7 ACPI broken
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 13:47:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EE86864.5070207@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030611211506.GD16164@fs.tum.de>

Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 01:40:54AM +0200, Eric Valette wrote:
> 
>>...
>>I would personnally suggest that you classify the things using the 
>>following filter :
>>	a) Server (SMP, SCSI, RAID, journaling filesystems, ...),
>>	b) laptop (ACPI, CPUFREQ, Software suspend, IDE power save,...),
>>	c) desktop (File system efficiency, new hardware support,...),
>>	d) all systems
>>...
> 
> 
> Why are journaling filesystems only for servers?
> Is file system efficiency not relevant on servers?

I was just making suggestions after a 30s thinking. Side comments, 
readding this mailling list, I had the impression that journaling and 
filesystem performance do not seem to mix well. Also on server, you have 
probably extra backup hardware and means (e.g RAID, DAT, DLT, ...)



> The important sections are more likely (ordered by priority):
> - bug fixes (e.g. aic7xxx)
> - support for additional hardware (e.g. ACPI update)
> - new features (e.g. XFS)

Personnaly, I dislike this approach as it as resulted in 2.4 being non 
usable for servers (SMP deadlocks, IO stalls, unresponsiveness for 
several seconds, ...) and laptop (ACPI)...

> The important thing is that this is inside a stable kernel series and an 
> update that makes things better for 100 people but makes things worse 
> for one person is IMHO bad since it's a regression for one person.

If 2.4 kernel is not usable without patching, It is far worse for me...


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  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-12 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-10 23:40 2.4.22 timeline was RE: 2.4.21-rc7 ACPI broken Eric Valette
2003-06-11 21:15 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-06-12 11:47   ` Eric Valette [this message]
2003-06-12 14:05   ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-12 16:32     ` Eric Valette
2003-06-17 23:25 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-06-17 23:58   ` J.A. Magallon
2003-06-18 20:27     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-06-18  5:15   ` Anders Karlsson
2003-06-18 16:55     ` Bill Nottingham
2003-06-18  9:04   ` Eric Valette
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-06-09 23:27 Grover, Andrew
2003-06-09 22:38 Margit Schubert-While
2003-06-10  0:08 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-06-09 21:47 Margit Schubert-While
2003-06-09 21:21 Grover, Andrew
2003-06-09 21:24 ` Grzegorz Jaskiewicz
2003-06-09 22:03 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-06-10  0:44   ` Alan Cox
2003-06-10 11:05     ` Torben Mathiasen
2003-06-10 15:14     ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-09 21:07 Margit Schubert-While
2003-06-04 20:49 Grover, Andrew
2003-06-09 20:32 ` 2.4.22 timeline was " Marcelo Tosatti
2003-06-10  0:47   ` Alan Cox

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