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From: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Steven Dake <sdake@mvista.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] udev enhancements to use kernel event queue
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:17:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EEA071C.2090805@nortelnetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20030613164216.GB5799@kroah.com

Greg KH wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 08:51:01AM -0700, Steven Dake wrote:

>>The reality though, is that the user will be running the daemon to clear 
>>out the events.  If they don't, then they get what they deserve :)
>>
> 
> Heh, then your kernel which _has_ to stay up (due to your previous
> guarantees of uptime) keels over.  I don't think that by requiring that
> a kernel _has_ to have a specific userspace program running in order for
> it to stay healthy would be anying any "carrier grade" user would ever
> agree to.
> 
> :)

I don't think I totally buy that argument.  Often a "carrier-grade" box has a 
whole bunch of things that must be running for the box to stay healthy.  If one 
of them dies, the system logs the problem along with diagnostic information and 
tries to restart it.  If it can't be restarted, then we failover to the warm 
standby and go for a reboot to try and clean things up.

I agree that there are other issues, but needing to have a particular binary 
running isn't really a problem. (init, for example...)


Chris


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  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-13 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-12 19:10 [PATCH] udev enhancements to use kernel event queue Steven Dake
2003-06-12 21:47 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-13 16:31   ` Steven Dake
2003-06-13 17:06     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-12 21:47 ` Greg KH
2003-06-12 22:03   ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-12 22:50     ` Greg KH
2003-06-12 22:51       ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-12 23:02         ` Greg KH
2003-06-12 23:09           ` Greg KH
2003-06-12 23:14             ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-12 23:16             ` Robert Love
2003-06-12 23:25               ` Greg KH
2003-06-13 20:01                 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-06-18 22:59                   ` Greg KH
2003-06-19  0:12                     ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-06-19  0:20                       ` Greg KH
2003-06-19  0:42                         ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-06-19  0:51                           ` Greg KH
2003-06-19  0:25                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-19  6:27                       ` Oliver Neukum
2003-06-12 23:25               ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-12 23:29                 ` Robert Love
2003-06-12 23:32                   ` Greg KH
2003-06-12 23:34                   ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-12 23:40                     ` Paul Mackerras
2003-06-12 23:50                       ` Robert Love
2003-06-13 12:44                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-06-13 12:54                           ` Olivier Galibert
2003-06-12 23:52                       ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-13  8:41                       ` Alan Cox
2003-06-13 11:00                         ` Paul Mackerras
2003-06-13 11:07                           ` Herbert Xu
2003-06-13 13:31                           ` Alan Cox
2003-06-13 19:57                             ` Joe Korty
2003-06-13 21:10                               ` Alan Cox
2003-06-13 11:17                       ` David Schwartz
2003-06-13 15:44                         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-12 23:42                     ` Robert Love
2003-06-12 23:45                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-12 23:05       ` Robert Love
2003-06-19 19:51       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-26 12:17         ` Tommi Virtanen
2003-06-26 14:35           ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-13  8:40     ` Alan Cox
2003-06-13  9:14       ` Olivier Galibert
2003-06-19 20:53         ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-13 16:05       ` Steven Dake
2003-06-13 16:32       ` Greg KH
2003-06-13 15:51   ` Steven Dake
2003-06-13 16:41     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-13 16:42     ` Greg KH
2003-06-13 17:17       ` Chris Friesen [this message]
2003-06-12 22:27 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-06-13 16:03   ` Steven Dake
2003-06-13 16:50     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-13 17:10       ` Steven Dake
2003-06-13 18:26         ` Greg KH
2003-06-13 19:02         ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-06-13 17:32     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-06-13 18:23     ` Greg KH
2003-06-13 18:24     ` Greg KH
2003-06-13  7:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-06-13 18:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-19 23:32   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-19 23:42     ` Steven Dake
2003-06-20  0:05       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-20  0:10         ` Steven Dake
2003-06-20  0:43           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-20  2:26             ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-20 17:03             ` Steven Dake
2003-06-20 17:18               ` Patrick Mochel
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2003-06-14  6:36 John Bradford

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