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From: "Leonard Milcin Jr." <thervoy@post.pl>
To: Stewart Smith <stewart@linux.org.au>
Cc: rmoser <mlmoser@comcast.net>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: File System conversion -- ideas
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 16:55:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F01A0FE.6060403@post.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030701101509.GC3587@cancer>

Stewart Smith wrote:
> Yes it is. In fact, it is more of a problem then you think.
> 
> Think of this simple scenario:
> a script is running that downloads a kernel patch, applies it to a tree,
> then renames the directory to $1-$patchname.
> 
> Half way through this, during the patch, the backup script comes through
> and starts to backup the filesystem.
> 
> 
> Now - wipe the drive clean at the end and restore it to a sane state.
> 
> Doing live things on storage systems without transactions, snapshots or
> whatever you want to call them is tricky at best. resizing is going to 
> cause headaches.
> 

I think of some sort of overlay filesystem on top of that *thing*. In
this case ovarlay filesystem could serve as redo log in database system.
Then we need only worry with read operations, not write. Writes will be
stored in redo log, and eventually they will be included when actual
read only filesystem will be converted.

What you think about this?



-- 
"Unix IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are."
                                                        -- Tollef Fog Heen


  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-01 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-29 10:11 File System conversion -- ideas John Bradford
2003-06-29 13:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-29 13:50   ` David D. Hagood
2003-06-29 18:31     ` rmoser
2003-06-29 19:55       ` David D. Hagood
2003-06-29 20:05         ` rmoser
2003-06-29 20:41           ` David D. Hagood
2003-06-29 20:53             ` rmoser
2003-06-29 20:22         ` Leonard Milcin Jr.
2003-06-30 16:05     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-06-30 16:59       ` Leonard Milcin Jr.
2003-06-30 17:04         ` Kevin Corry
2003-06-30 17:37         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-07-01  9:56       ` Stewart Smith
2003-06-29 13:54   ` Leonard Milcin Jr.
2003-06-29 18:45     ` rmoser
2003-06-29 19:37       ` Leonard Milcin Jr.
2003-06-29 19:43         ` Leonard Milcin Jr.
2003-06-29 19:48           ` rmoser
2003-06-30  3:52             ` Horst von Brand
2003-07-01 10:15             ` Stewart Smith
2003-07-01 14:55               ` Leonard Milcin Jr. [this message]
2003-07-01 15:41                 ` Stewart Smith
2003-07-01 16:19                   ` Leonard Milcin Jr.
2003-06-29 19:44         ` rmoser
2003-06-29 19:44         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-29 19:46           ` rmoser
2003-06-29 20:02           ` viro
2003-06-29 20:26             ` Leonard Milcin Jr.
2003-06-29 20:31             ` rmoser
2003-07-01 10:01         ` Stewart Smith
2003-06-29 19:28     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-29 19:35       ` rmoser
2003-06-29 19:42       ` viro
2003-06-29 19:45         ` rmoser
2003-06-29 20:00           ` viro
2003-06-29 20:19             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-29 20:25               ` viro
2003-06-29 20:45                 ` rmoser
2003-06-29 20:46                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-30  9:13                 ` Nikita Danilov
2003-06-29 20:38               ` rmoser
2003-06-29 20:29             ` rmoser
2003-06-29 20:50               ` Hugo Mills
2003-06-29 21:00                 ` rmoser
2003-06-29 21:10                   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-29 21:37                   ` Hugo Mills
2003-06-29 21:54                     ` rmoser
2003-06-29 22:25                       ` Hugo Mills
2003-06-29 20:51               ` viro
2003-06-29 21:07                 ` rmoser
2003-06-29 21:08                 ` Chris Friesen
2003-06-30  0:25               ` Jan Harkes
2003-06-30  0:59                 ` rmoser
2003-07-01 20:03             ` Pavel Machek
2003-07-02 14:49               ` Jan Kara
2003-06-29 20:05           ` David D. Hagood
2003-06-29 20:36             ` rmoser
2003-06-30  0:05               ` Richard Braakman
2003-06-30  0:58                 ` rmoser
2003-06-29 21:32           ` Diego Calleja García
2003-06-30 13:26           ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-30 13:42             ` Hans Reiser
2003-06-30 13:56               ` Jesse Pollard
2003-07-06 19:30             ` Svein Ove Aas
2003-06-29 18:26 ` rmoser
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-07  8:43 John Bradford
2003-07-01 16:04 Matt Reuther
2003-07-01 16:13 ` Frank Gevaerts
2003-06-30 14:11 John Bradford
2003-06-30 15:45 ` Leonard Milcin Jr.
2003-06-30  8:55 John Bradford
2003-06-30  9:36 ` Hans Reiser
2003-06-30 16:29   ` viro
2003-06-29 21:59 John Bradford
2003-06-29 20:20 John Bradford
2003-06-29 20:44 ` rmoser
2003-06-29 20:06 John Bradford
2003-06-29 18:58 John Bradford
2003-06-29 19:12 ` rmoser
2003-06-29 18:37 John Bradford
2003-06-29 18:48 ` rmoser
2003-06-29 19:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-29 16:24 John Bradford
2003-06-29 16:13 John Bradford
2003-06-29 19:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-29  6:57 rmoser
2003-06-30 13:05 ` Jesse Pollard

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