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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no
Cc: Marc-Christian Petersen <m.c.p@wolk-project.de>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ->direct_IO API change in current 2.4 BK
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 17:43:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F0C8C85.6090604@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16140.29271.365874.304823@charged.uio.no>

Trond Myklebust wrote:
>>>>>>" " == Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com> writes:
> 
> 
>      > Having the stable API change, conditional on a define, is
>      > really nasty and IMO will create maintenance and support
>      > headaches down the line.  I do not recall Linux VFS _ever_
>      > having a hook's definition conditional.  We should not start
>      > now...
> 
> direct_IO() was precisely such a conditional hook definition. It
> appeared in 2.4.15, and anybody who does not check for
> KERNEL_HAS_O_DIRECT is not backward compatible.

You misunderstand.  The 2.4.15 direct_IO hook was _not_ conditionally 
defined.  It appeared in the middle of a stable series, yes.  It has a 
feature macro, yes.  But the definition of the hook in 
include/linux/fs.h does not _change_ based on a define.  That is what I 
mean by a conditional hook definition.

It is far less trouble for everyone to add a new hook, instead of 
changing an existing hook, in the middle of a stable series.


> To comment further: There is at least one example I can think of which
> was exactly equivalent to the proposed change, namely the redefinition
> of the filldir_t type in 2.4.9. It was admittedly not documented using
> a define...

No doubt you can find more :)  That doesn't make the right thing to do, 
though :)


> Note: We could at the same time replace the name direct_IO() with
> direct_IO2() (that has several precedents).  There are currently only
> a small number of filesystems that provide O_DIRECT, and converting
> them all is (as has been pointed out before) trivial...

We cannot just-fix-up filesystems which are not in-tree, which is what 
the KERNEL_HAS_O_DIRECT2 define would be mainly used for.  In-tree 
filesystems would just unconditionally use the new, or old, interface as 
they chose.


> The problem with read_inode2() was rather that it overloaded the the
> existing iget4() interface...

The higher-level problem was that we didn't want to change the VFS 
API...  otherwise we could have simply used the new interface, and 
converted all in-tree filesystems.

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-09 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-09 12:31 ->direct_IO API change in current 2.4 BK Christoph Hellwig
2003-07-09 17:03 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-07-09 17:24   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-07-09 17:43     ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-09 17:46       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-07-09 17:55         ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-09 18:08           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-07-09 18:22             ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-09 19:13               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-07-09 19:45                 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-09 23:43                 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-10  0:21                   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-09 18:33             ` Trond Myklebust
2003-07-09 18:41               ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-09 18:50                 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-07-09 18:55                   ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-09 19:05                   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-09 19:08                     ` Trond Myklebust
2003-07-09 19:17                       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-09 19:51                         ` Trond Myklebust
2003-07-09 21:43                           ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2003-07-09 23:42                         ` Alan Cox
2003-07-10  0:23                           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-09 23:40                   ` Alan Cox
2003-07-09 18:29     ` Trond Myklebust
2003-07-09 18:51       ` Andreas Dilger
2003-07-09 19:18         ` Jeff Garzik

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