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From: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	ed.sweetman@wmich.edu, eugene.teo@eugeneteo.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel@kolivas.org
Subject: Re: Ingo Molnar and Con Kolivas 2.6 scheduler patches
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:40:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F26957E.7040204@techsource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200307300946.41674.phillips@arcor.de



Daniel Phillips wrote:

> 
> In the meantime, the SCHED_SOFTRR proposal provides a way of closely 
> approximating the above behaviour without being intrusive or 
> application-specific.
> 


And there are obvious benefits to keeping things application-general.

IF it's possible to intelligently determine interactivity and other such 
things, and lots of impressive progress is being made in that area, then 
that is definately preferable.  But there may be some circumstances 
where we simply cannot determine need from application behavior.

It might help to have an API for real-time processes that is accessible 
by non-root tasks.  If a task sets itself to real-time, its scheduling 
is more predictable, but it gets a shorter timeslice (perhaps) so that 
being real-time doesn't adversely impact the system when abused.

The nice thing about the smart schedulers is that (a) no one has to 
change their apps (although they can tweak to cooperate better), and (b) 
future apps will behave well without us having to anticipate anything.


  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-29 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-26  9:30 Ingo Molnar and Con Kolivas 2.6 scheduler patches Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-26  9:46 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-26 10:02   ` Ismael Valladolid Torres
2003-07-26 10:10     ` Eugene Teo
2003-07-26 11:24       ` Ed Sweetman
2003-07-26 17:00         ` Rahul Karnik
2003-07-27 15:46         ` Daniel Phillips
2003-07-26 16:52           ` Diego Calleja García
2003-07-26 18:35           ` Andrew Morton
2003-07-26 23:01             ` Diego Calleja García
2003-07-28  9:38               ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-28 10:37                 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-07-28 17:06                 ` Diego Calleja García
2003-07-27  2:38             ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-27  7:39               ` Willy Tarreau
2003-07-27  9:12                 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-07-27 11:54                   ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-27 20:18             ` Daniel Phillips
2003-07-26 22:05               ` Ed Sweetman
2003-08-01 15:38                 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-07-31 23:02                   ` Ed Sweetman
2003-07-27  2:39               ` Ed Sweetman
2003-07-29 13:56               ` Timothy Miller
2003-07-29 13:57                 ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-29 15:30                   ` Timothy Miller
2003-07-29 15:52                 ` Helge Hafting
2003-07-29 16:26                   ` Timothy Miller
2003-07-30 14:46                 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-07-29 15:40                   ` Timothy Miller [this message]
2003-07-30 16:17                     ` Daniel Phillips
2003-08-08 21:09                   ` Bill Huey
2003-08-06 21:28           ` Rob Landley
2003-08-07  9:34             ` Helge Hafting
2003-08-07 15:42             ` Daniel Phillips
2003-08-07 20:45               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-07 20:51               ` Rob Landley
2003-08-07 21:40                 ` Ed Sweetman
2003-08-07 22:17                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-08  0:01                   ` Rob Landley
2003-08-09 20:52                   ` George Anzinger
2003-08-14  0:24                     ` Rob Landley
2003-08-14  8:01                       ` George Anzinger
2003-08-16  9:10                         ` Rob Landley
2003-08-16 14:29                           ` APM and 2.5.75 not resuming properly Jamie Lokier
2003-08-16 15:03                             ` Stephen Rothwell
2003-08-16 16:12                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-16 20:43                             ` Rob Landley
2003-08-13  3:38                   ` Ingo Molnar and Con Kolivas 2.6 scheduler patches George Anzinger
2003-08-08  6:08                 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-07-26 12:08       ` Ismael Valladolid Torres
2003-07-26 14:54         ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-26 14:49     ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-26 14:47   ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-26 16:42     ` Lou Langholtz
2003-07-26 16:40       ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-26 18:19   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-26 18:31     ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-26 19:20       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-26 19:47       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-27  9:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-07-27  9:57   ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-27 10:02     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-07-27 10:19       ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-28 22:44     ` Timothy Miller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-26 14:44 Downing, Thomas

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