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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: jt@hpl.hp.com
Cc: Linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>
Subject: Re: request_firmware() backport to 2.4
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 12:50:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F561BE4.7090806@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030902192043.GD22376@bougret.hpl.hp.com>

Jean Tourrilhes wrote:
> Marcelo wrote :
> 
>>On 1 Sep 2003, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
>>
>>
>>>no, the bfubase.frm is the original firmware file from AVM. This file
>>>have to be placed somewhere on the filesystem. 
>>
>>Right, and without placing the file somewhere on the filesystem bfusb
>>2.4.22 users wont have 2.4.23 working without "issues".
> 
> 
> 	But various high level kernel people, such as Jeff, have
> decided that binary firmwares *must* be removed from the kernel
> because of legal "issues" (GPL == source available). In 2.6.X, it
> seems that the tolerance towards this "issue" will end, so all those
> nasty details will have to work.

Well, I wouldn't put it that strongly.

It's more like, at least in my own case, the Debian people make a stink 
about the legality of non-GPL'd firmwares.  And certain people, and at 
certain times, have refused patches related to legality of firmwares. 
AND, on top of all that, as a programmer I hate seeing these ugly BLOBs 
embedded in C code, and would much rather see them removed from the C 
source code.

So, I "prefer" that firmware leaves the kernel, but that's just my 
personal opinion.  There has been no decision made AFAIK, and I don't 
recall Marcelo or Linus speaking definitively on the subject.


> 	Of course, 2.4.X is more "don't rock the boat".

Agreed...

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-03 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-02 19:20 request_firmware() backport to 2.4 Jean Tourrilhes
2003-09-03 16:50 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-08-25 12:22 Marcel Holtmann
2003-09-01 12:04 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-09-01 13:00   ` Marcel Holtmann
2003-09-01 13:26     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-09-01 13:45       ` Marcel Holtmann

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