From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>,
John Yau <jyau_kernel_dev@hotmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Priority Inversion in Scheduling
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:28:58 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F5EEEDA.7070406@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20030910074121.01c8a220@pop.gmx.net>
Mike Galbraith wrote:
> At 07:35 AM 9/10/2003, Mike Fedyk wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 06:42:10AM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
>> > At 02:23 AM 9/10/2003, Nick Piggin wrote:
>> > >Hi John,
>> > >Your mechanism is basically "backboost". Its how you get X to keep a
>> > >high piroirity, but quite unpredictable. Giving a boost to a process
>> > >holding a semaphore is an interesting idea, but it doesn't address
>> the
>> > >X problem.
>> >
>> > FWIW, I tried the hardware usage bonus thing, and it does cure the X
>> > inversion problem (yeah, it's a pretty cheezy way to do it). It also
>> > cures xmms skips if you can't get to the top without hw usage. I also
>> > tried a cpu limited backboost from/to tasks associated with
>> hardware, and
>> > it hasn't run amok... yet ;-)
>>
>> Against which scheduler, and when are you going to post the patch?
>
>
> Against stock test-4, but I'm not going to post it. It's just an
> experiment to verify that there is another simple way to defeat the X
> inversion problem (while retaining active list requeue). Also,
> backboost is a tricky little bugger, and I thought I'd let Nick know
> that I had some success with this heavily restricted form. (global
> backboost can be down right evil)
>
> If anyone having inversion or concurrency troubles wants to give it a
> try for grins, they can drop me a line. My tree tends to morph a lot
> though, depending on what aspect of scheduling I'm tinkering with at
> the time. It currently does well at defeating known starvation
> issues, but I don't like it's priority distribution much (and it's not
> destined for inclusion, and it's pretty darn ugly, and I'll likely
> break it all to pieces again soon, and...;).
Sounds interesting. I my scheduler doesn't have any inversion or
starvation issues that I know of without backboost though. I'd like to
know if you find any.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-09-10 9:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-09-09 19:57 Priority Inversion in Scheduling John Yau
2003-09-10 0:23 ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-10 4:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-09-10 5:35 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-10 6:22 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-09-10 9:28 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2003-09-10 10:47 ` Mike Galbraith
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-10 2:20 John Yau
2003-09-10 2:31 ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-10 5:41 ` Priority Inversion in Scheduling John Yau
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