From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: andersen@codepoet.org
Cc: "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hps@intermeta.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: freed_symbols [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]]
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:14:07 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F6558AF.3040806@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030915055721.GA6556@codepoet.org>
Erik Andersen wrote:
>On Mon Sep 15, 2003 at 12:17:37AM +0000, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote:
>
>>Erik Andersen <andersen@codepoet.org> writes:
>>
>>
>>>When you are done making noise, please explain how a closed
>>>source binary only product that runs within the context of the
>>>Linux kernel is not a derivitive work and therefore not subject
>>>to the terms of the GPL, per the definition given in the kernel
>>>COPYING file that grants you your limited rights for copying,
>>>distribution and modification.
>>>
>>"Because Linus said so".
>>
>
>It does not say "Because Linus said so" in the Linux kernel
>COPYING file, which is the only official document that grants
>legal permission to copy, distribute and/or modify the kernel.
>
How about taking the "GPL exported" symbols just as notes which show
their usage is not considered a derivative work by the copyright
holders? This is what I always thought it was there for. This of course
means someone can't simply add that "note" and expect it to change the
way the copyright holders think of their work.
I don't expect this would do much in court, but isn't that for binary
driver people to worry about because it is granting more rights than
the GPL allows. Maybe it could be written in legalease to give them
more confidence. And it lets open source developers know where they
stand.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-09-15 6:14 UTC|newest]
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[not found] <uess.1w0.9@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <ujV3.1uP.13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-10 21:52 ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-10 22:26 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-10 22:34 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-11 1:35 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11 13:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-11 18:39 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11 18:45 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-13 17:52 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 23:54 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-13 17:34 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 10:55 ` Sean Estabrooks
2003-09-11 14:36 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 17:42 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-12 20:58 ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-12 21:47 ` Matt D. Robinson
2003-09-12 22:31 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-12 23:26 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 0:29 ` Matt D. Robinson
2003-09-13 17:42 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 5:38 ` jw schultz
2003-09-13 17:44 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 18:19 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 20:01 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 23:17 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 1:57 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 2:40 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 3:42 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 3:36 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 4:37 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 4:58 ` freed_symbols [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]] Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 5:39 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 5:32 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 6:41 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 6:50 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 7:10 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 8:08 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-15 0:17 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-15 5:57 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-15 6:14 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2003-10-05 0:52 ` Rob Landley
2003-10-05 1:05 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 2:34 ` viro
2003-10-05 3:45 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 10:24 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 13:56 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 14:14 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 10:23 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 11:32 ` David Lang
2003-10-05 13:37 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 6:40 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 7:39 ` viro
2003-10-05 18:27 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 19:21 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:03 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:14 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:34 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:43 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-06 1:22 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-06 1:37 ` David Lang
2003-10-06 1:51 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 19:32 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-10-05 19:47 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:38 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:46 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 19:54 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-09-14 8:45 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-09-15 0:16 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-15 0:27 ` Justin Cormack
2003-09-14 21:40 ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] David Schwartz
2003-09-15 8:06 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-14 2:51 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 3:05 ` GPL == DMCA [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]] Andre Hedrick
2003-10-29 22:42 ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] David Schwartz
2003-10-29 23:11 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-30 0:10 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11 1:39 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 17:11 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 21:11 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-13 21:19 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 21:12 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 22:09 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 22:30 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-14 1:16 ` Andrew Pimlott
2003-09-15 15:26 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-09-13 23:00 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-12 21:04 ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-12 21:17 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-15 18:24 ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-15 20:17 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 18:09 ` Andre Hedrick
[not found] <vyRY.6te.13@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <vzkY.7cC.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-14 9:16 ` freed_symbols [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]] Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-14 17:09 ` Stan Bubrouski
[not found] <fa.grj6i7d.lmorqn@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.n320lec.1p4i0gc@ifi.uio.no>
2003-10-05 16:44 ` walt
[not found] <Dnwo.1ew.15@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <DnPL.3XB.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <DsvX.3yN.1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-10-06 18:28 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-10-06 18:38 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-06 21:29 ` Olivier Galibert
2003-10-07 0:56 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-07 8:40 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-07 8:56 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-07 10:13 ` Roman Zippel
2003-10-07 10:33 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-07 10:44 ` Roman Zippel
2003-10-07 11:25 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-07 14:03 ` Roman Zippel
2003-10-07 19:09 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-07 8:58 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-07 14:16 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-07 14:48 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-07 8:28 ` David Woodhouse
[not found] <DIre.Cy.15@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <DIre.Cy.17@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <DIre.Cy.19@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <DIre.Cy.13@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <DIAQ.2Hh.5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-10-06 18:56 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-10-06 19:09 ` David Lang
2003-10-06 20:08 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-07 10:49 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-10 12:14 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-10 12:48 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-10 13:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 12:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 13:07 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-10 13:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-06 22:46 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-06 23:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-07 0:20 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-10-07 2:31 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-07 10:03 Pascal Schmidt
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