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* Horiffic SPAM
@ 2003-09-23 18:11 Richard B. Johnson
  2003-09-23 18:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
  2003-09-23 18:43 ` [OT] Re: Horiffic SPAM Grant Miner
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-09-23 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

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Hello all,

I took root@chaos.analogic.com off the linux-kernel list
for a few days so I can trap the spammers and write their
addresses to `ipchains`. I have been getting approximately
12,000 email messages per day on that system, making it
impossible to use. It's all about the servers spreading
the M$ email virus with the phony message to update to the
latest security patches, plus a few hundred "penis-patch" spam
messages per hour.

Anyway, I am trying to fight back. I have attached a
tar-file which contains the source-code I use to create
anti-spam entries for `ipchains`. It also automatically
ties up the spammers and sends them an email message
asking them to stop, plus it logs the connections.

Cheers,

Richard B. Johnson
Project Engineer
Analogic Corporation
Penguin : Linux version 2.2.15 on an i586 machine (330.14 BogoMips).


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* Re: Horiffic SPAM
  2003-09-23 18:11 Horiffic SPAM Richard B. Johnson
@ 2003-09-23 18:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
  2003-09-23 18:53   ` Matt Heler
  2003-09-24 14:18   ` Richard B. Johnson
  2003-09-23 18:43 ` [OT] Re: Horiffic SPAM Grant Miner
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2003-09-23 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Johnson, Richard; +Cc: linux-kernel

On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 02:11:59PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I took root@chaos.analogic.com off the linux-kernel list
> for a few days so I can trap the spammers and write their
> addresses to `ipchains`. I have been getting approximately
> 12,000 email messages per day on that system, making it
> impossible to use. It's all about the servers spreading
> the M$ email virus with the phony message to update to the

the baesyan algorithm learnt about them pretty quickly, so they don't
hurt me anymore (besides some wasted bandwidth).

I doubt answerning those messages will do any good besides generating
more traffic, but I don't know the detail of the virus so I could be
wrong.

Andrea - If you prefer relying on open source software, check these links:
	    rsync.kernel.org::pub/scm/linux/kernel/bkcvs/linux-2.[45]/
	    http://www.cobite.com/cvsps/
	    svn://svn.kernel.org/linux-2.[46]/trunk

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* [OT] Re: Horiffic SPAM
  2003-09-23 18:11 Horiffic SPAM Richard B. Johnson
  2003-09-23 18:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
@ 2003-09-23 18:43 ` Grant Miner
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Grant Miner @ 2003-09-23 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Some of us want to get as much spam as possible.  Can you figure out why?


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* Re: Horiffic SPAM
  2003-09-23 18:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
@ 2003-09-23 18:53   ` Matt Heler
  2003-09-23 19:06     ` offtopic (Re: Horiffic SPAM) Andrea Arcangeli
  2003-09-24  6:28     ` Horiffic SPAM Paul Dickson
  2003-09-24 14:18   ` Richard B. Johnson
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Matt Heler @ 2003-09-23 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrea Arcangeli, Johnson, Richard; +Cc: linux-kernel

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Ive been living in a mail hole theese past few years.. Where does one get this 
baesyan algorithm ?? 

Matt H.

On Tuesday 23 September 2003 11:36 am, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 02:11:59PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I took root@chaos.analogic.com off the linux-kernel list
> > for a few days so I can trap the spammers and write their
> > addresses to `ipchains`. I have been getting approximately
> > 12,000 email messages per day on that system, making it
> > impossible to use. It's all about the servers spreading
> > the M$ email virus with the phony message to update to the
>
> the baesyan algorithm learnt about them pretty quickly, so they don't
> hurt me anymore (besides some wasted bandwidth).
>
> I doubt answerning those messages will do any good besides generating
> more traffic, but I don't know the detail of the virus so I could be
> wrong.
>
> Andrea - If you prefer relying on open source software, check these links:
> 	    rsync.kernel.org::pub/scm/linux/kernel/bkcvs/linux-2.[45]/
> 	    http://www.cobite.com/cvsps/
> 	    svn://svn.kernel.org/linux-2.[46]/trunk
> -
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
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* offtopic (Re: Horiffic SPAM)
  2003-09-23 18:53   ` Matt Heler
@ 2003-09-23 19:06     ` Andrea Arcangeli
  2003-09-24  3:15       ` Sandy Harris
  2003-09-24  6:28     ` Horiffic SPAM Paul Dickson
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2003-09-23 19:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Matt Heler; +Cc: Johnson, Richard, linux-kernel

On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 11:53:04AM -0700, Matt Heler wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Ive been living in a mail hole theese past few years.. Where does one get this 
> baesyan algorithm ?? 

www.spamassassin.org

~/bin/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.60/sa-learn --mbox --spam ~/mail/spam
~/bin/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.60/sa-learn --mbox --spam ~/mail/spam-bad

spam-bad is differentiated because it gets >15 marks, so it gets deleted
immediatly after learning. (see the docs in the package)

but make sure to teach the baesyan about your regular email first, the
number of "ham" must be >= "spam" or your risk losing legitmate email. I
use my inbox as "ham" (that's around 10000 messages).

this is the status of my db

0.000          0        688          0  non-token data: nspam
0.000          0       9722          0  non-token data: nham

see now what it returns for these >100k viruses (Bayesian spam
probability is 99 to 100%)

-------- cut and paste begin ---------
 pts rule name              description
---- ---------------------- --------------------------------------------------
 0.1 HTML_MESSAGE           BODY: HTML included in message
 1.7 HTML_RELAYING_FRAME    BODY: Frame wanted to load outside URL
 5.4 BAYES_99               BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
                            [score: 1.0000]
 0.3 MIME_HTML_ONLY         BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
 0.1 HTML_50_60             BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML
 5.6 IFRAME                 BODY: IFRAME virus
 3.0 MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE   RAW: Message includes Microsoft executable program
 0.6 MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET   RAW: Message text in HTML without charset
 0.1 MIME_SUSPECT_NAME      RAW: MIME filename does not match content
 1.1 MIME_HTML_ONLY_MULTI   Multipart message only has text/html MIME parts

The original message was not completely plain text, and may be unsafe to
open with some email clients; in particular, it may contain a virus,
or confirm that your address can receive spam.  If you wish to view
it, it may be safer to save it to a file and open it with an editor.


[-- Attachment #2: original message before SpamAssassin --]
[-- Type: message/rfc822, Encoding: 8bit, Size: 142K --]

Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:30:38 -0500
From: "microsoft net message system" <mailerrobot@america.com>
To: "network recipient" <client@yourdomain.com>
SUBJECT: Bug Advice
X-Virus-Information: Please visit http://enap.wt.net for more
information
X-Virus-Scanner: Found to be clean

[-- Autoview using lynx -dump '/tmp/mutt.html' --]

   IFRAME: [1]cid:mccexrrgkte

   Hi.
   Undeliverable to mxwxeztble@america.com
[..]
-------- cut and paste end ---------

Andrea - If you prefer relying on open source software, check these links:
	    rsync.kernel.org::pub/scm/linux/kernel/bkcvs/linux-2.[45]/
	    http://www.cobite.com/cvsps/
	    svn://svn.kernel.org/linux-2.[46]/trunk

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* Re: offtopic (Re: Horiffic SPAM)
  2003-09-23 19:06     ` offtopic (Re: Horiffic SPAM) Andrea Arcangeli
@ 2003-09-24  3:15       ` Sandy Harris
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Sandy Harris @ 2003-09-24  3:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Andrea Arcangeli wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 11:53:04AM -0700, Matt Heler wrote:
>>
>>Ive been living in a mail hole theese past few years.. Where does one get this 
>>baesyan algorithm ?? 
>  
> www.spamassassin.org

Another good tactic:

Teegrube is German for tarpit, a trap that wastes
large amounts of spammer resources at little cost
to you.

English FAQ:
http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/teergrube.en.html



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* Re: Horiffic SPAM
  2003-09-23 18:53   ` Matt Heler
  2003-09-23 19:06     ` offtopic (Re: Horiffic SPAM) Andrea Arcangeli
@ 2003-09-24  6:28     ` Paul Dickson
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Paul Dickson @ 2003-09-24  6:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Matt Heler; +Cc: linux-kernel

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:53:04 -0700, Matt Heler wrote:

> Ive been living in a mail hole theese past few years.. Where does one get this 
> baesyan algorithm ?? 

Go to google.com and search "bayesian spam filter".  The first two hits
are Paul Graham's articles that started it all.  There are at least two
sourceforge.net projects in the first tens hits.

	-Paul


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* Re: Horiffic SPAM
  2003-09-23 18:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
  2003-09-23 18:53   ` Matt Heler
@ 2003-09-24 14:18   ` Richard B. Johnson
  2003-09-25  8:21     ` [OT] " Helge Hafting
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-09-24 14:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrea Arcangeli; +Cc: Johnson, Richard, linux-kernel

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 02:11:59PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I took root@chaos.analogic.com off the linux-kernel list
> > for a few days so I can trap the spammers and write their
> > addresses to `ipchains`. I have been getting approximately
> > 12,000 email messages per day on that system, making it
> > impossible to use. It's all about the servers spreading
> > the M$ email virus with the phony message to update to the
>
> the baesyan algorithm learnt about them pretty quickly, so they don't
> hurt me anymore (besides some wasted bandwidth).
>
> I doubt answerning those messages will do any good besides generating
> more traffic, but I don't know the detail of the virus so I could be
> wrong.
>

Well it seems that fire-walling the SPAM servers is *not* a good idea.
They are persistant, gang up, and will not give up until they are
able to deliver the mail! When I firewall them, my network traffic
ends up being continuous SYN floods as every spam-server in the
country tries to connect. It doesn't do any good to set `ipchains` to
REJECT instead of DENY. They just keep on banging on the door.

This morning, there was too much traffic on our T3 link to use
a Web crawler, so I had to un-firewall my machine to get about
100,000 (maybe more) mail messages delivered and thrown away.
Procmail is throwing away everything as fast as it can. The
hard-disk LEDs are on continuously, and it takes about 20
seconds to log in. The machine has been eating SPAM mail since
7:00 this morning and it's now 10:15. Maybe, eventually, I
will be able to use my machine again.

To give you a hint of the size of the problem, my /var/log/messages
which logs sendmail activity is about 12 Gb in length. I truncated
it to zero this morning.

Richard B. Johnson
Project Engineer
Analogic Corporation
Penguin : Linux version 2.2.20 on an i586 machine (330.14 BogoMips).

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* [OT] Re: Horiffic SPAM
  2003-09-24 14:18   ` Richard B. Johnson
@ 2003-09-25  8:21     ` Helge Hafting
  2003-09-25 12:30       ` Richard B. Johnson
  2003-09-25 14:59       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Helge Hafting @ 2003-09-25  8:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Johnson, Richard; +Cc: linux-kernel

Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> 
> 
>>On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 02:11:59PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
>>

> Well it seems that fire-walling the SPAM servers is *not* a good idea.
> They are persistant, gang up, and will not give up until they are
> able to deliver the mail! When I firewall them, my network traffic

According to standards they will give up after 5 days or so.

> ends up being continuous SYN floods as every spam-server in the
> country tries to connect. It doesn't do any good to set `ipchains` to
> REJECT instead of DENY. They just keep on banging on the door.
> 

Have you considered teergrubing them instead?  That ought to
fix the bandwith problem.  And it is not so fun for whoever has
the spam server either - either disrupting some spammers operation
or harassing some server admin into making his box un-abuseable.


Helge Hafting


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* Re: [OT] Re: Horiffic SPAM
  2003-09-25  8:21     ` [OT] " Helge Hafting
@ 2003-09-25 12:30       ` Richard B. Johnson
  2003-09-25 14:59       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-09-25 12:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Helge Hafting; +Cc: Johnson, Richard, linux-kernel

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Helge Hafting wrote:

> Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 02:11:59PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> >>
>
> > Well it seems that fire-walling the SPAM servers is *not* a good idea.
> > They are persistant, gang up, and will not give up until they are
> > able to deliver the mail! When I firewall them, my network traffic
>
> According to standards they will give up after 5 days or so.
>
> > ends up being continuous SYN floods as every spam-server in the
> > country tries to connect. It doesn't do any good to set `ipchains` to
> > REJECT instead of DENY. They just keep on banging on the door.
> >
>
> Have you considered teergrubing them instead?  That ought to
> fix the bandwith problem.  And it is not so fun for whoever has
> the spam server either - either disrupting some spammers operation
> or harassing some server admin into making his box un-abuseable.
>
>

I thought it would be easier than that. However, I did write a
program that keeps the connection open forever (until the SPAM-server
hangs up). This slows down the servers. I also thought that I could
make multiple connections to the server and never hang up, depriving
the SPAM-server of resources. However, I can't make a new connection
with the same socket (don't know why), EISCONN,  without closing the
previous.
This means that I need a new socket for each connection. I run out
of sockets before the SPAM-servers do.


> Helge Hafting
>


Richard B. Johnson
Project Engineer
Analogic Corporation
Penguin : Linux version 2.2.15 on an i586 machine (330.14 BogoMips).

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* Re: [OT] Re: Horiffic SPAM
  2003-09-25  8:21     ` [OT] " Helge Hafting
  2003-09-25 12:30       ` Richard B. Johnson
@ 2003-09-25 14:59       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
  2003-09-25 15:36         ` Toshiba Tecra S1 Battery Status Bernt Hansen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Valdis.Kletnieks @ 2003-09-25 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Helge Hafting; +Cc: Johnson, Richard, linux-kernel

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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:21:49 +0200, Helge Hafting said:

> According to standards they will give up after 5 days or so.

Methinks you forgot the smiley on here.

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* Toshiba Tecra S1 Battery Status
  2003-09-25 14:59       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
@ 2003-09-25 15:36         ` Bernt Hansen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Bernt Hansen @ 2003-09-25 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Hi,

Are there any patches available to read the battery status of a Toshiba
Tecra S1 laptop (module PT831C-11UDL)?

I currently have no way to read the battery time left - and when it runs
out the system comes crashing down -- ext3 to the rescue!  

The last kernel I tried was 2.6.0-test5.

Any help would be appreciated.

TIA
Bernt
-- 
Bernt Hansen     Norang Consulting Inc.

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2003-09-23 18:53   ` Matt Heler
2003-09-23 19:06     ` offtopic (Re: Horiffic SPAM) Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  3:15       ` Sandy Harris
2003-09-24  6:28     ` Horiffic SPAM Paul Dickson
2003-09-24 14:18   ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-09-25  8:21     ` [OT] " Helge Hafting
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2003-09-25 14:59       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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