* Horiffic SPAM @ 2003-09-23 18:11 Richard B. Johnson 2003-09-23 18:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2003-09-23 18:43 ` [OT] Re: Horiffic SPAM Grant Miner 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-09-23 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-kernel [-- Attachment #1: Type: TEXT/PLAIN, Size: 846 bytes --] Hello all, I took root@chaos.analogic.com off the linux-kernel list for a few days so I can trap the spammers and write their addresses to `ipchains`. I have been getting approximately 12,000 email messages per day on that system, making it impossible to use. It's all about the servers spreading the M$ email virus with the phony message to update to the latest security patches, plus a few hundred "penis-patch" spam messages per hour. Anyway, I am trying to fight back. I have attached a tar-file which contains the source-code I use to create anti-spam entries for `ipchains`. It also automatically ties up the spammers and sends them an email message asking them to stop, plus it logs the connections. Cheers, Richard B. Johnson Project Engineer Analogic Corporation Penguin : Linux version 2.2.15 on an i586 machine (330.14 BogoMips). [-- Attachment #2: Type: APPLICATION/x-gzip, Size: 17572 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Horiffic SPAM 2003-09-23 18:11 Horiffic SPAM Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-09-23 18:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2003-09-23 18:53 ` Matt Heler 2003-09-24 14:18 ` Richard B. Johnson 2003-09-23 18:43 ` [OT] Re: Horiffic SPAM Grant Miner 1 sibling, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2003-09-23 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Johnson, Richard; +Cc: linux-kernel On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 02:11:59PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > Hello all, > > I took root@chaos.analogic.com off the linux-kernel list > for a few days so I can trap the spammers and write their > addresses to `ipchains`. I have been getting approximately > 12,000 email messages per day on that system, making it > impossible to use. It's all about the servers spreading > the M$ email virus with the phony message to update to the the baesyan algorithm learnt about them pretty quickly, so they don't hurt me anymore (besides some wasted bandwidth). I doubt answerning those messages will do any good besides generating more traffic, but I don't know the detail of the virus so I could be wrong. Andrea - If you prefer relying on open source software, check these links: rsync.kernel.org::pub/scm/linux/kernel/bkcvs/linux-2.[45]/ http://www.cobite.com/cvsps/ svn://svn.kernel.org/linux-2.[46]/trunk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Horiffic SPAM 2003-09-23 18:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli @ 2003-09-23 18:53 ` Matt Heler 2003-09-23 19:06 ` offtopic (Re: Horiffic SPAM) Andrea Arcangeli 2003-09-24 6:28 ` Horiffic SPAM Paul Dickson 2003-09-24 14:18 ` Richard B. Johnson 1 sibling, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Matt Heler @ 2003-09-23 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrea Arcangeli, Johnson, Richard; +Cc: linux-kernel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ive been living in a mail hole theese past few years.. Where does one get this baesyan algorithm ?? Matt H. On Tuesday 23 September 2003 11:36 am, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 02:11:59PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I took root@chaos.analogic.com off the linux-kernel list > > for a few days so I can trap the spammers and write their > > addresses to `ipchains`. I have been getting approximately > > 12,000 email messages per day on that system, making it > > impossible to use. It's all about the servers spreading > > the M$ email virus with the phony message to update to the > > the baesyan algorithm learnt about them pretty quickly, so they don't > hurt me anymore (besides some wasted bandwidth). > > I doubt answerning those messages will do any good besides generating > more traffic, but I don't know the detail of the virus so I could be > wrong. > > Andrea - If you prefer relying on open source software, check these links: > rsync.kernel.org::pub/scm/linux/kernel/bkcvs/linux-2.[45]/ > http://www.cobite.com/cvsps/ > svn://svn.kernel.org/linux-2.[46]/trunk > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/cJaTleY/n9G/oZ8RAoPjAKCHtX9SsUNSjI+MsXlKwVbxRP5+SwCeIIHB SdEfk80hkuGGV1tj3bnU5ns= =+yr7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* offtopic (Re: Horiffic SPAM) 2003-09-23 18:53 ` Matt Heler @ 2003-09-23 19:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2003-09-24 3:15 ` Sandy Harris 2003-09-24 6:28 ` Horiffic SPAM Paul Dickson 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2003-09-23 19:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Matt Heler; +Cc: Johnson, Richard, linux-kernel On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 11:53:04AM -0700, Matt Heler wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ive been living in a mail hole theese past few years.. Where does one get this > baesyan algorithm ?? www.spamassassin.org ~/bin/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.60/sa-learn --mbox --spam ~/mail/spam ~/bin/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.60/sa-learn --mbox --spam ~/mail/spam-bad spam-bad is differentiated because it gets >15 marks, so it gets deleted immediatly after learning. (see the docs in the package) but make sure to teach the baesyan about your regular email first, the number of "ham" must be >= "spam" or your risk losing legitmate email. I use my inbox as "ham" (that's around 10000 messages). this is the status of my db 0.000 0 688 0 non-token data: nspam 0.000 0 9722 0 non-token data: nham see now what it returns for these >100k viruses (Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%) -------- cut and paste begin --------- pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.1 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 1.7 HTML_RELAYING_FRAME BODY: Frame wanted to load outside URL 5.4 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100% [score: 1.0000] 0.3 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts 0.1 HTML_50_60 BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML 5.6 IFRAME BODY: IFRAME virus 3.0 MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE RAW: Message includes Microsoft executable program 0.6 MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET RAW: Message text in HTML without charset 0.1 MIME_SUSPECT_NAME RAW: MIME filename does not match content 1.1 MIME_HTML_ONLY_MULTI Multipart message only has text/html MIME parts The original message was not completely plain text, and may be unsafe to open with some email clients; in particular, it may contain a virus, or confirm that your address can receive spam. If you wish to view it, it may be safer to save it to a file and open it with an editor. [-- Attachment #2: original message before SpamAssassin --] [-- Type: message/rfc822, Encoding: 8bit, Size: 142K --] Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:30:38 -0500 From: "microsoft net message system" <mailerrobot@america.com> To: "network recipient" <client@yourdomain.com> SUBJECT: Bug Advice X-Virus-Information: Please visit http://enap.wt.net for more information X-Virus-Scanner: Found to be clean [-- Autoview using lynx -dump '/tmp/mutt.html' --] IFRAME: [1]cid:mccexrrgkte Hi. Undeliverable to mxwxeztble@america.com [..] -------- cut and paste end --------- Andrea - If you prefer relying on open source software, check these links: rsync.kernel.org::pub/scm/linux/kernel/bkcvs/linux-2.[45]/ http://www.cobite.com/cvsps/ svn://svn.kernel.org/linux-2.[46]/trunk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: offtopic (Re: Horiffic SPAM) 2003-09-23 19:06 ` offtopic (Re: Horiffic SPAM) Andrea Arcangeli @ 2003-09-24 3:15 ` Sandy Harris 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Sandy Harris @ 2003-09-24 3:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-kernel Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 11:53:04AM -0700, Matt Heler wrote: >> >>Ive been living in a mail hole theese past few years.. Where does one get this >>baesyan algorithm ?? > > www.spamassassin.org Another good tactic: Teegrube is German for tarpit, a trap that wastes large amounts of spammer resources at little cost to you. English FAQ: http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/teergrube.en.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Horiffic SPAM 2003-09-23 18:53 ` Matt Heler 2003-09-23 19:06 ` offtopic (Re: Horiffic SPAM) Andrea Arcangeli @ 2003-09-24 6:28 ` Paul Dickson 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Paul Dickson @ 2003-09-24 6:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Matt Heler; +Cc: linux-kernel On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:53:04 -0700, Matt Heler wrote: > Ive been living in a mail hole theese past few years.. Where does one get this > baesyan algorithm ?? Go to google.com and search "bayesian spam filter". The first two hits are Paul Graham's articles that started it all. There are at least two sourceforge.net projects in the first tens hits. -Paul ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Horiffic SPAM 2003-09-23 18:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2003-09-23 18:53 ` Matt Heler @ 2003-09-24 14:18 ` Richard B. Johnson 2003-09-25 8:21 ` [OT] " Helge Hafting 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-09-24 14:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrea Arcangeli; +Cc: Johnson, Richard, linux-kernel On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 02:11:59PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I took root@chaos.analogic.com off the linux-kernel list > > for a few days so I can trap the spammers and write their > > addresses to `ipchains`. I have been getting approximately > > 12,000 email messages per day on that system, making it > > impossible to use. It's all about the servers spreading > > the M$ email virus with the phony message to update to the > > the baesyan algorithm learnt about them pretty quickly, so they don't > hurt me anymore (besides some wasted bandwidth). > > I doubt answerning those messages will do any good besides generating > more traffic, but I don't know the detail of the virus so I could be > wrong. > Well it seems that fire-walling the SPAM servers is *not* a good idea. They are persistant, gang up, and will not give up until they are able to deliver the mail! When I firewall them, my network traffic ends up being continuous SYN floods as every spam-server in the country tries to connect. It doesn't do any good to set `ipchains` to REJECT instead of DENY. They just keep on banging on the door. This morning, there was too much traffic on our T3 link to use a Web crawler, so I had to un-firewall my machine to get about 100,000 (maybe more) mail messages delivered and thrown away. Procmail is throwing away everything as fast as it can. The hard-disk LEDs are on continuously, and it takes about 20 seconds to log in. The machine has been eating SPAM mail since 7:00 this morning and it's now 10:15. Maybe, eventually, I will be able to use my machine again. To give you a hint of the size of the problem, my /var/log/messages which logs sendmail activity is about 12 Gb in length. I truncated it to zero this morning. Richard B. Johnson Project Engineer Analogic Corporation Penguin : Linux version 2.2.20 on an i586 machine (330.14 BogoMips). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* [OT] Re: Horiffic SPAM 2003-09-24 14:18 ` Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-09-25 8:21 ` Helge Hafting 2003-09-25 12:30 ` Richard B. Johnson 2003-09-25 14:59 ` Valdis.Kletnieks 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Helge Hafting @ 2003-09-25 8:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Johnson, Richard; +Cc: linux-kernel Richard B. Johnson wrote: > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > >>On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 02:11:59PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote: >> > Well it seems that fire-walling the SPAM servers is *not* a good idea. > They are persistant, gang up, and will not give up until they are > able to deliver the mail! When I firewall them, my network traffic According to standards they will give up after 5 days or so. > ends up being continuous SYN floods as every spam-server in the > country tries to connect. It doesn't do any good to set `ipchains` to > REJECT instead of DENY. They just keep on banging on the door. > Have you considered teergrubing them instead? That ought to fix the bandwith problem. And it is not so fun for whoever has the spam server either - either disrupting some spammers operation or harassing some server admin into making his box un-abuseable. Helge Hafting ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [OT] Re: Horiffic SPAM 2003-09-25 8:21 ` [OT] " Helge Hafting @ 2003-09-25 12:30 ` Richard B. Johnson 2003-09-25 14:59 ` Valdis.Kletnieks 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-09-25 12:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Helge Hafting; +Cc: Johnson, Richard, linux-kernel On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Helge Hafting wrote: > Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > > > > >>On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 02:11:59PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > >> > > > Well it seems that fire-walling the SPAM servers is *not* a good idea. > > They are persistant, gang up, and will not give up until they are > > able to deliver the mail! When I firewall them, my network traffic > > According to standards they will give up after 5 days or so. > > > ends up being continuous SYN floods as every spam-server in the > > country tries to connect. It doesn't do any good to set `ipchains` to > > REJECT instead of DENY. They just keep on banging on the door. > > > > Have you considered teergrubing them instead? That ought to > fix the bandwith problem. And it is not so fun for whoever has > the spam server either - either disrupting some spammers operation > or harassing some server admin into making his box un-abuseable. > > I thought it would be easier than that. However, I did write a program that keeps the connection open forever (until the SPAM-server hangs up). This slows down the servers. I also thought that I could make multiple connections to the server and never hang up, depriving the SPAM-server of resources. However, I can't make a new connection with the same socket (don't know why), EISCONN, without closing the previous. This means that I need a new socket for each connection. I run out of sockets before the SPAM-servers do. > Helge Hafting > Richard B. Johnson Project Engineer Analogic Corporation Penguin : Linux version 2.2.15 on an i586 machine (330.14 BogoMips). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [OT] Re: Horiffic SPAM 2003-09-25 8:21 ` [OT] " Helge Hafting 2003-09-25 12:30 ` Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-09-25 14:59 ` Valdis.Kletnieks 2003-09-25 15:36 ` Toshiba Tecra S1 Battery Status Bernt Hansen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Valdis.Kletnieks @ 2003-09-25 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Helge Hafting; +Cc: Johnson, Richard, linux-kernel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 161 bytes --] On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:21:49 +0200, Helge Hafting said: > According to standards they will give up after 5 days or so. Methinks you forgot the smiley on here. [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 226 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Toshiba Tecra S1 Battery Status 2003-09-25 14:59 ` Valdis.Kletnieks @ 2003-09-25 15:36 ` Bernt Hansen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Bernt Hansen @ 2003-09-25 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-kernel Hi, Are there any patches available to read the battery status of a Toshiba Tecra S1 laptop (module PT831C-11UDL)? I currently have no way to read the battery time left - and when it runs out the system comes crashing down -- ext3 to the rescue! The last kernel I tried was 2.6.0-test5. Any help would be appreciated. TIA Bernt -- Bernt Hansen Norang Consulting Inc. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* [OT] Re: Horiffic SPAM 2003-09-23 18:11 Horiffic SPAM Richard B. Johnson 2003-09-23 18:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli @ 2003-09-23 18:43 ` Grant Miner 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Grant Miner @ 2003-09-23 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-kernel Some of us want to get as much spam as possible. Can you figure out why? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2003-09-25 15:36 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 12+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2003-09-23 18:11 Horiffic SPAM Richard B. Johnson 2003-09-23 18:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2003-09-23 18:53 ` Matt Heler 2003-09-23 19:06 ` offtopic (Re: Horiffic SPAM) Andrea Arcangeli 2003-09-24 3:15 ` Sandy Harris 2003-09-24 6:28 ` Horiffic SPAM Paul Dickson 2003-09-24 14:18 ` Richard B. Johnson 2003-09-25 8:21 ` [OT] " Helge Hafting 2003-09-25 12:30 ` Richard B. Johnson 2003-09-25 14:59 ` Valdis.Kletnieks 2003-09-25 15:36 ` Toshiba Tecra S1 Battery Status Bernt Hansen 2003-09-23 18:43 ` [OT] Re: Horiffic SPAM Grant Miner
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