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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] disable_irq()/enable_irq() semantics and ide-probe.c
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:03:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F8594CD.1030504@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1065718629.663.3.camel@gaston>

Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 18:38, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>>Manfred Spraul wrote:
>>
>>>I'd like to use that for nic shutdown for natsemi:
>>>
>>>   disable_irq();
>>>   shutdown_nic();
>>>   free_irq();
>>>   enable_irq();
>>
>>
>>Why not just shutdown the NIC inside spin_lock_irqsave or disable_irq, 
>>and then free_irq separately?
>>
>>If you can't stop the NIC hardware from generating interrupts, that's a 
>>driver bug.  And if the driver cannot handle its interrupt handler 
>>between the spin_unlock_irqrestore() and free_irq() (shared irq case), 
>>it's also buggy.
> 
> 
> Actually you may still get a stale irq ;) The problem is that IRQs are
> typically an asynchronous event, and an irq can be sort of "queued" up
> (especially if it's a level one) in the PIC... though at least this
> won't be a stale level irq so you won't deadlock in an irq handler that
> can do nothing...

Easily solved with a synchronize_irq()  ;-)

As a slight tangent, with MSI coming up, as well as the presence of 
hardware that queues IRQ events asynchronously, we'll want 
synchronize_irq() to handle those cases, even for uniprocess (often 
synchronize_irq is only defined for SMP).


> Anyway, I quite like the idea. I've been trying to avoid taking a lock
> in some similar shutdown routine for sungem, because some bits in there
> need a few ms delay to workaround a chip bug (or machine sleep will
> break) and I want to schedule. Breaking the lock makes things ugly,
> beeing able to just disable_irq before/after is nice.
> 
> The problem of course is when that irq is shared... you are suddently
> shutting off for a potentially long time a neighbour irq, bad bad...
> (at least I know that on pmac, sungem irq is never shared).

You want to disable_irq() then sleep?  ewww...  :)  I think we could 
figure out a better way...

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-09 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-09 16:10 [RFC] disable_irq()/enable_irq() semantics and ide-probe.c Manfred Spraul
2003-10-09 16:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-09 16:57   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-10-09 17:03     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2003-10-09 17:07       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-10-09 17:16         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-09 17:29   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-09 17:52     ` Jeff Garzik
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-09  2:00 viro
2003-10-09  2:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-09  2:43   ` viro
2003-10-09  2:53     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-09  8:03       ` Russell King
2003-10-09 22:46         ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-10-09  8:07       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-10-09 15:46       ` viro
2003-10-09 16:01         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-09 17:46           ` viro
2003-10-09 18:03             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-09 18:27               ` viro
2003-10-09 19:05                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-15 17:14               ` Anton Blanchard
2003-10-17  9:19                 ` Russell King
2003-10-17 10:32                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-10-09 12:55   ` Roman Zippel

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