From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk,
Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] disable_irq()/enable_irq() semantics and ide-probe.c
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:03:09 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F8594CD.1030504@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1065718629.663.3.camel@gaston>
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 18:38, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
>>Manfred Spraul wrote:
>>
>>>I'd like to use that for nic shutdown for natsemi:
>>>
>>> disable_irq();
>>> shutdown_nic();
>>> free_irq();
>>> enable_irq();
>>
>>
>>Why not just shutdown the NIC inside spin_lock_irqsave or disable_irq,
>>and then free_irq separately?
>>
>>If you can't stop the NIC hardware from generating interrupts, that's a
>>driver bug. And if the driver cannot handle its interrupt handler
>>between the spin_unlock_irqrestore() and free_irq() (shared irq case),
>>it's also buggy.
>
>
> Actually you may still get a stale irq ;) The problem is that IRQs are
> typically an asynchronous event, and an irq can be sort of "queued" up
> (especially if it's a level one) in the PIC... though at least this
> won't be a stale level irq so you won't deadlock in an irq handler that
> can do nothing...
Easily solved with a synchronize_irq() ;-)
As a slight tangent, with MSI coming up, as well as the presence of
hardware that queues IRQ events asynchronously, we'll want
synchronize_irq() to handle those cases, even for uniprocess (often
synchronize_irq is only defined for SMP).
> Anyway, I quite like the idea. I've been trying to avoid taking a lock
> in some similar shutdown routine for sungem, because some bits in there
> need a few ms delay to workaround a chip bug (or machine sleep will
> break) and I want to schedule. Breaking the lock makes things ugly,
> beeing able to just disable_irq before/after is nice.
>
> The problem of course is when that irq is shared... you are suddently
> shutting off for a potentially long time a neighbour irq, bad bad...
> (at least I know that on pmac, sungem irq is never shared).
You want to disable_irq() then sleep? ewww... :) I think we could
figure out a better way...
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-09 17:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-09 16:10 [RFC] disable_irq()/enable_irq() semantics and ide-probe.c Manfred Spraul
2003-10-09 16:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-09 16:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-10-09 17:03 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2003-10-09 17:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-10-09 17:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-09 17:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-09 17:52 ` Jeff Garzik
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-09 2:00 viro
2003-10-09 2:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-09 2:43 ` viro
2003-10-09 2:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-09 8:03 ` Russell King
2003-10-09 22:46 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-10-09 8:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-10-09 15:46 ` viro
2003-10-09 16:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-09 17:46 ` viro
2003-10-09 18:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-09 18:27 ` viro
2003-10-09 19:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-15 17:14 ` Anton Blanchard
2003-10-17 9:19 ` Russell King
2003-10-17 10:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-10-09 12:55 ` Roman Zippel
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