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From: "Ihar 'Philips' Filipau" <filia@softhome.net>
To: asdfd esadd <retu834@yahoo.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.7 thoughts: common well-architected object model
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:03:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F8837FA.4090808@softhome.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FutO.5TB.29@gated-at.bofh.it>

asdfd esadd wrote:
> the other OS has an at this stage highly consistent
> object model user along the lines of COM+ from the
> kernel up encompassing a single event, thread etc.
> model. Things are quite consistently wrapped, user
> mode exposed if needed etc. If people were to fully
> draw on it and the simpler .net BCL and not ride win32
> that would (will be) a killer.  
> 
> So let me restate the need:
> 
> * a unified well architected core component model
> which is extensible from OS services to application
> objects
> 
> * the object model should be defined from the kernel
> layer for process/events/devices etc. up and not
> started at the application layer
> 

   Hm.

   Any real world application for which POSIX is not enough?
   Any real world application which can benefit /enourmosly/ from this?

   State, please, problem first - do not put the requirements ahead of 
problem.

   Since as of event system I would say POSIX (and Linux in particular) 
far ahead of permanently inconsistent Win32.
   [ Win32 is a very bad example, since you have there a "spawn one more 
thread" solution/workaround for any problem. Try to read MSDN by yourself. ]

P.S. <kidding> Probably Java is what you are looking for? (java.* after 
all some kind of kernel for Java, and jvm is some kind of cpu ;-)))) 
</kidding>

-- 
Ihar 'Philips' Filipau  / with best regards from Saarbruecken.
--
   "... and for $64000 question, could you get yourself vaguely
      familiar with the notion of on-topic posting?"
				-- Al Viro @ LKML


       reply	other threads:[~2003-10-11 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Ft4B.3ML.3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <FutO.5TB.29@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-10-11 17:03   ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau [this message]
2003-10-11  4:45 2.7 thoughts: common well-architected object model asdfd esadd
2003-10-11 14:30 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-11 16:06   ` asdfd esadd
2003-10-11 16:48     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-11 17:13       ` asdfd esadd
2003-10-11 17:38         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-11 17:56           ` asdfd esadd
2003-10-11 18:20             ` Mark Hahn
2003-10-11 18:13       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-10-11 23:33         ` J.A. Magallon
2003-10-11 17:00     ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-10-11 17:57     ` Kenn Humborg
2003-10-11 18:34       ` asdfd esadd
2003-10-11 18:46         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-11 19:01         ` Kenn Humborg
2003-10-11 19:11           ` retu
2003-10-11 19:25           ` viro
2003-10-12 11:59         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-12 16:04           ` retu
2003-10-12 16:44             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-12 16:51               ` retu
2003-10-12 17:50                 ` viro
2003-10-12 21:52             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-12 20:21         ` Rik van Riel
2003-10-13 20:21         ` James Antill
2003-10-14  5:01           ` retu
2003-10-14  6:00             ` Nick Piggin
2003-10-14  5:31           ` retu
2003-10-14  6:05             ` Tim Hockin
2003-10-14  6:46             ` viro

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