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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>
Cc: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>,
	Wes Janzen <superchkn@sbcglobal.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why are bad disk sectors numbered strangely, and what happens to them?
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:31:33 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F8BD085.6020107@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031014101021.GE16683@bitwizard.nl>

Rogier Wolff wrote:

>On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 01:57:42PM +0400, Hans Reiser wrote:
>  
>
>>Rogier Wolff wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Of course, I left my drive that indicated it had problems (i.e. it
>>>didn't spot the sector going bad before it became unreadable), in the
>>>machine for another two days. It's getting replaced ASAP (i.e. the
>>>next hour or so).
>>>      
>>>
>
>  
>
>>replacing the drive is reasonable caution.  I think though that the 
>>other poster is right that IFF you want to remap bad blocks, the drive 
>>should do it not reiserfs.
>>    
>>
>
>It is a "pretty much for free" feature. In your in-kernel
>implementation you hopefully already have the ability to skip blocks
>in use by other files. So allocating it to a special file will take
>care of the kernel part. Next you need one line in your fsck to
>prevent that "dangling inode" getting linked into lost+found. Then you
>do need a utility to actually be able to mark blocks as bad. 
>
>			Roger. 
>
>  
>
We DO have it.  It is present in Reiser4, and there is a patch around 
somewhere for V3 that I would be happy to have someone merge into the 
latest V3 code and test (we are too focused on shipping V4 to do it 
ourselves right now).

I agree that the FS should be able to do it, but I also think that the 
drive doing it is best.

-- 
Hans



  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-14 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-13  9:31 Why are bad disk sectors numbered strangely, and what happens to them? Norman Diamond
     [not found] ` <200310131014.h9DAEwY3000241@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk>
2003-10-13 10:24   ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-13 10:33     ` John Bradford
2003-10-13 11:30       ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-13 11:58         ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-10-15 10:22           ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-13 12:02         ` John Bradford
2003-10-15 10:23           ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-15 18:56             ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-14  6:54         ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-13 14:24     ` Chuck Campbell
2003-10-13 14:54       ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-10-13 16:29         ` Roger Larsson
2003-10-14  6:49     ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14  7:05       ` Wes Janzen
2003-10-14  7:21         ` John Bradford
2003-10-14  7:40           ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14  8:11             ` John Bradford
2003-10-14  8:45               ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-14  9:46                 ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14  9:57                   ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-14 10:10                     ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14 10:31                       ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2003-10-14 10:19                 ` John Bradford
     [not found]             ` <200310140800.h9E80BT9000815@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk>
     [not found]               ` <20031014081110.GA14418@bitwizard.nl>
2003-10-14  8:55                 ` Wes Janzen
2003-10-14 10:05                   ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14  7:24         ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14  9:04         ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-15 10:23           ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-15 10:39             ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-17  9:40           ` Blockbusting news, this is important (Re: Why are bad disk sectors numbered strangely, and what happens to them?) Norman Diamond
2003-10-17  9:48             ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-17 11:11               ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-17 11:45                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-17 11:51                 ` John Bradford
2003-10-17 12:53                 ` John Bradford
2003-10-17 13:03                   ` Russell King
2003-10-17 13:26                     ` John Bradford
2003-10-19  7:50                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-17 13:04                 ` Russell King
2003-10-17 14:09                   ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-17  9:58             ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-17 10:15               ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-17 10:24             ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-17 10:49               ` John Bradford
2003-10-17 11:09                 ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-17 11:24                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-10-17 19:35                   ` John Bradford
2003-10-17 23:28                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-10-18  7:42                       ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-18  8:30                         ` John Bradford
2003-10-21 20:26                           ` bill davidsen
2003-10-18  8:27                       ` John Bradford
2003-10-18 12:02                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-10-18 16:26                           ` Nuno Silva
2003-10-18 20:16                             ` Krzysztof Halasa
     [not found]                     ` <m37k33igui.fsf@defiant. <m3u166vjn0.fsf@defiant.pm.waw.pl>
2003-10-21 20:39                       ` bill davidsen
2003-10-17 10:37             ` ATA Defect management John Bradford
2003-10-21 20:44               ` bill davidsen
2003-10-17 12:08             ` Blockbusting news, this is important (Re: Why are bad disk sectors numbered strangely, and what happens to them?) Justin Cormack
2003-10-21 20:12             ` bill davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-12  8:25 Why are bad disk sectors numbered strangely, and what happens to them? Norman Diamond
2003-10-11  9:00 Norman Diamond
2003-10-11  9:39 ` Andreas Jellinghaus

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