From: "Ihar 'Philips' Filipau" <filia@softhome.net>
To: "Martin J. Bligh" <fletch@aracnet.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] add a config option for -Os compilation
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:05:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F92B62C.8020602@softhome.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <InYQ.6OJ.21@gated-at.bofh.it>
Martin J. Bligh wrote:
>
> But if someone with a small cache would actually *measure* the damned
> thing, I'd be more impressed ... I've never seen that, but perhaps
> I just missed it.
>
> Point is the same either way though ... we shouldn't unconditionally
> optimise for *anyone's* system. If it's faster on all systems that anyone
> can be bothered to measure, great. If it's faster on some, and slower on
> others, a config option seems more appropriate, defaulting to the majority
> of users.
>
The thing is, that in fact kernel optimization is not that important.
The goal of kernel is to provide framework for applications to the
job well. I wasn't doing any kernels measurements - since kernel docs
are saying that -O2 is the standard. And it is really hard to measure
kernel only perfomance. (And it is rather pointless - I'm not going to
sell linux kernel ;-)))
But indeed I was testing my application on embedded system with 16K
L1 cache. Results were pretty predictable: gcc 2.95.3 + -Os was giving
some (around 2-3%) performance improvements, while 2.95.3 + -O[23] and
3.2.3 with any optimization were giving aprox. the same times. (App is
bloated with third-party libraries, C++ and threads. Save God I have
killed all exceptions - they were really really really slow on target
system.)
But on other side - since embedded systems are not that overclocked
as high-end toys - cache miss is not that painful. As of docs, NatSemi
Geode@266MHz cache miss costs exactly 266/66 == 4 cycles.
--
Ihar 'Philips' Filipau / with best regards from Saarbruecken.
--
"... and for $64000 question, could you get yourself vaguely
familiar with the notion of on-topic posting?"
-- Al Viro @ LKML
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2003-10-19 16:05 ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau [this message]
2003-10-19 16:14 ` [2.6 patch] add a config option for -Os compilation Wichert Akkerman
2003-10-19 16:31 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-19 16:57 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
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2003-10-19 17:04 ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
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2003-10-19 16:55 ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
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2003-10-19 14:15 ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2003-10-19 15:40 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-10-15 22:50 Adrian Bunk
2003-10-15 23:12 ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-15 23:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-10-15 23:52 ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-18 10:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-10-18 15:45 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-10-18 17:24 ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-18 17:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-10-18 17:57 ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-19 15:43 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-10-19 15:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-10-19 16:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-10-19 18:32 ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-20 14:27 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-10-21 8:22 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
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2003-09-14 12:16 Adrian Bunk
2003-09-14 12:33 ` Russell King
2003-09-14 13:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-14 14:52 ` Russell King
2003-09-25 14:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-25 18:11 ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-09-26 11:44 ` Russell King
2003-09-26 22:36 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-14 13:53 ` Wade
2003-09-14 14:57 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-15 15:15 ` Martin J. Bligh
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