RE: Blockbusting news, results get worse

Andre Hedrick
2003-10-27T19:19:18Z

Eric,

You are being helpful and this is a good thing.
Sure anyone can join T13 for $800/year and up to $10K in travel cost.
Anyone can join T10 for $10K/year and additional $10K in travel cost.

Any other class/level of membership is worthless. If you can not vote why
bother.

I do not remember meeting you when I was working with VP Skinner in
the Longmont office, the division of firmware for all of Maxtor. This
could be that you were part of the Quantum merger?

Regardless, I may be hard to understand. The drive companies are harder
being mimes until recently.

Cheers,

Andre Hedrick
LAD Storage Consulting Group

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Mudama, Eric wrote:

>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Samium Gromoff [mailto:deepfire@ibe.miee.ru]
> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 6:08 AM
> > To: Mudama, Eric
> > Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> > Subject: RE: Blockbusting news, results get worse
> >
> >
> > Eric Mudama wrote:
> > > Andre Hedrick wrote:
> > > > Eric,
> > > >
> > > > Item "3" in your list is not practical, because no drive
> > > > maker allows the same drives that large oem's purchase to
> > be placed in retail.
> > > > There are obvious reasons, but your position stated for
> > the average joe
> > > > consumer is flawed.
> > >
> > > I don't believe your statement is correct that OEM drives
> > and retail drives
> > > always differ. They may have slight configuration differences, but
> > > fundamentally I think they're the same drive with identical or
> > > near-identical firmware.
> >
> > If there is somebody you should believe about such stuff,
> > that would be Andre.
> > (by the way he was a T13 committee member not so long ago)
>
> That's nice. For $800/year, anyone can join who is interested, provided
> they can attend the meetings. Anyone is free to join and ask questions on
> the T13 mailing list.
>
> http://www.t13.org
>
> As to the "facts," I guess I choose to believe myself, since I'm one of the
> guys writing firmware that decides drive behavior in many of these cases
> that people bring up. Now, I've only been doing this for 3 years, so if
> there was something done greater than 3 years ago, odds are I haven't heard
> of it. I am only speaking from recent experience.
>
> As to "believing" Andre, I'm sure he's a nice guy, but he comes off as
> awefully bitter... it's tough to read more than a few sentences of what he
> writes. He obviously "knows" stuff, but wants to make people jump through
> hoops to learn what he knows.
>
> > And, hey, i would have been rather surprised if you have
> > answered otherwise, given your email address...
>
> Of course, you can dismiss everything I'm saying if you like. However, I'd
> like to think I've been helpful to someone. Disk drives don't work quite
> the way some people think, so I like to try to clear up these misconceptions
> thinking it will eventually help produce better linux code that works better
> with the IDE drives I can afford.
>
> --eric
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